Help and Hurt: Dio vs Dio!

[Typhon]

The battle between Heaven And Hell and The Mob Rules is a tough one and always has been...

For me it's always been the two weak tracks (Wishing Well and Walk Away) that bring that album down in comparison to The Mob Rules that is 100% pure gold...not a single weak song on it.

Eliminate Over And Over from the album and I would agree.  Can't stand hearing that one.

Wow...that's interesting. I've always felt that Tony's soloing on that one too is suberb...not nearly as mind blowingly great as on Lonely Is The Word but it is still among his best work ever.

Tony always plays great, but this is one of the only Sabbath songs that actually brings me down rather than lifts my spirits.  That's why I skip it.

[Charger]

The battle between Heaven And Hell and The Mob Rules is a tough one and always has been...

For me it's always been the two weak tracks (Wishing Well and Walk Away) that bring that album down in comparison to The Mob Rules that is 100% pure gold...not a single weak song on it.

Eliminate Over And Over from the album and I would agree.  Can't stand hearing that one.

Wow...that's interesting. I've always felt that Tony's soloing on that one too is suberb...not nearly as mind blowingly great as on Lonely Is The Word but it is still among his best work ever.

Tony always plays great, but this is one of the only Sabbath songs that actually brings me down rather than lifts my spirits.  That's why I skip it.

Ah...now that I do understand. I would say that Over and Over is probably the saddest song Sabbath has done.

[Jack the Stripper]

I'm with the Angry Aussie Die Young is absolutely one of my favorite tracks of any band, ever.

So here's my match card:


H&H          MR
NK       <   TUtN
CotS     <   V
LE       <   SotSC
H&H      <   E5150/MR
WW       >   CG
DY       >   SA
WA       <   FOtEotW
LItW     >   O&O


I'm 5-3 in favour of Mob Rules as an album.

But I won't vote anymore, either.

Interesting! My picks differ greatly to yours. Can't believe you prefer MR title track though. Also, a couple of other things H&H has over MR is the cover art and that Mr Bill Ward plays on it. 

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

I'm going to try and play this so that both albums could win. So I'll bring them even today and see who needs help from then on.

1. Heaven and Hell - 22
2. Mob Rules - 22

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)

[Tyr66]

^^^ agree with you, KDC .

1. Heaven and Hell - 20
2. Mob Rules - 23

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)

[Jack the Stripper]

1. Heaven and Hell - 21
2. Mob Rules - 21

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)

[AnnoMundi]

Hey Guys, sorry I’m late to the game.

Gather the wind
Though the wind won't help you fly at all
Your back's to the wall
Chain the sun and it tears away
And it breaks you as you run, you run, you run!!!!!!

So live for today and hope tomorrow never comes, Die Young!!!!!!!

1. Heaven and Hell - 22
2. Mob Rules - 19

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

1. Heaven and Hell - 20
2. Mob Rules - 20

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)

[Jack the Stripper]

You've come back in the nick of time Elves

1. Heaven and Hell - 21
2. Mob Rules - 18

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)

[Tyr66]

1. Heaven and Hell - 19
2. Mob Rules - 19

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)

[AnnoMundi]

Thank you Jack, glad I made it back in time.

1. Heaven and Hell - 20
2. Mob Rules - 17

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)

[Zzzptm]

I'm up for trying to make them come out close to even.

1. Heaven and Hell - 18
2. Mob Rules - 18

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)
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[Thelemech]

1. Heaven and Hell - 16
2. Mob Rules - 19

Rising (Third Place)
Dehumanizer (Fourth Place)
Long Live Rock 'n' Roll (Fifth Place)
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow (Sixth Place)
Holy Diver (Seventh Place)
Last In Line (Eighth Place)
The Devil You Know (Ninth Place)
Sacred Heart  (Tenth Place)
Dream Evil (Eleventh Place)

[AnnoMundi]

I don’t understand, Heaven and Hell the track alone beats almost anything ever done by Sabbath and then the energetic Die Young that starts off slow and mellow and the best opening track ever Neon Knights, how can it be losing?

[Charger]

I don’t understand, Heaven and Hell the track alone beats almost anything ever done by Sabbath and then the energetic Die Young that starts off slow and mellow and the best opening track ever Neon Knights, how can it be losing?

Probably because The Mob Rules is THE BEST album Black Sabbath has ever done!

Welcome back Elves! I was wondering where you were...