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[Zzzptm]

And are you next going to tell me how a personality test will unlock my future potential? Or that, by calculating with numbers derived from The Great Pyramids, you have determined the day the world will end?

"There is nothing these people won't do." - can you possibly be any more dramatically deranged? Come to your senses, man. You're talking crazy.

[Vyn]

Jesse Morgan, his attorney, and their handler from the Amistad Project are unconvincing.

Mr. Morgan's corn-pone deportment indicates he is either a complete tool or is being told what to say and how to say it.

His attorney just happens to have connections with the Amistad Project. How...in tune of him! But he's never heard of the DoJ's PIN?

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-pin

I mean, AG Barr has made getting the ball rolling on election fraud issues simple by cutting out the normal process and having all issues sent directly to his office. How is Jesse's tale not front and center on Barr's desk?

Because it's BULLSHIT.

This thing would be ramrodded through the legal system faster than the phrase "Deep State" can evacuate itself out of that hole under Lou Dobbs's nose. But it's not. Why?

Because it's BULLSHIT.

[Typhon]

A couple of years ago, I seem to remember Trump claiming that there was some illegal wire taping going on, and some people were calling that bullshit too.

[Zzzptm]

A couple of years ago, I seem to remember Trump claiming that there was some illegal wire taping going on, and some people were calling that bullshit too.

Seriously, you're starting to sound like a missionary on my doorstep, trying to get me to join you in your belief system.

[Vyn]

A couple of years ago, I seem to remember Trump claiming that there was some illegal wire taping going on, and some people were calling that bullshit too.

I see where you're coming from with that rejoinder, however I'm confident that the logic used to correlate that issue with Jessie M.'s story is flawed.

The politicization of criminal behavior is the real bullshit in all of this. Across the board. It confounds and confuses efforts to make real, timely, and effective change where it is needed and only serves to "keep the pot stirred".

And it allows crooks to keep-on-a-crookin'. Dazzle everyone with the aforementioned excrement, and move on down the road.

But back to the topic at hand, if there is wholesale election fraud going on, I want it to be found out and those involved prosecuted. In fact, they can get shot by firing squad as traitors and I'd be cool with that. The clown show that Amistad put on starring their dupe Jessie M. is not going to make that happen.

[Typhon]

But back to the topic at hand, if there is wholesale election fraud going on, I want it to be found out and those involved prosecuted. In fact, they can get shot by firing squad as traitors and I'd be cool with that. The clown show that Amistad put on starring their dupe Jessie M. is not going to make that happen.

And how about all the folks who, yesterday, gave their eyewitness statements to the Michigan board of electors?  All liars?  Or those that came forward at the meeting in Nevada, or last week at the hearing in Pennsylvania?  I know, all of these people are liars. 

But I'm the one sounding like "a missionary at the doorstep".  I'm the one keeping " the pot stirred".  Who are the ones really slinging the bullshit around here?

[Typhon]

Breaking News
Today at the judiciary hearing in Georgia, a republican attorney presents video evidence of illegal ballots being entered into the system.  Workers and monitors are told that counting will stop for the evening and continue in the morning.  After they leave, late at night 4 people come in and retrieve suitcases full of ballots from underneath a table and begin counting them on several machines. 

[Zzzptm]

Re the Michigan statements: none were sworn in and their testimony had been rejected by the courts already. And, yeah, you sound like a guy with a helluva irrational belief system there. Kind of like the flat earthers who have all kinds of videos on how there are no planes flying between Chile and Australia... except that there are.

And most of the stuff being cited is essentially normal activity being called into suspicion by people who aren't familiar with how election processes go. They pretend to be, but they aren't.

***

If you want voter fraud on a scale that can impact the election results, look to what the Republicans did in Georgia and are getting sued over:

https://mailchi.mp/gregpalast/ny-times-georgiapalast-black-voters-matter-sue-over-20000-purged-voters

There's for-reals evidence in this case, not just Uncle Rudy's Nutcase Brigade telling tales out of school.

[Vyn]

And how about all the folks who, yesterday, gave their eyewitness statements to the Michigan board of electors?  All liars?  Or those that came forward at the meeting in Nevada, or last week at the hearing in Pennsylvania?  I know, all of these people are liars. 

I'm talking about one person and the circumstances surrounding that person's revelation. I'm not going down the rabbit hole of every swinging dick's eyeball testimony about anything. But I did manage to find the time to look into Mr. Morgan's story that you posted and feel comfortable stating that it is bullshit. If you want to extrapolate my position on that to everything, that's your choice, but it isn't the truth. And if I wanted to call you a pot-stirrer I'd just call you a pot-stirrer, lol.   

[Typhon]

Re the Michigan statements: none were sworn in and their testimony had been rejected by the courts already. And, yeah, you sound like a guy with a helluva irrational belief system there. Kind of like the flat earthers who have all kinds of videos on how there are no planes flying between Chile and Australia... except that there are.

And most of the stuff being cited is essentially normal activity being called into suspicion by people who aren't familiar with how election processes go. They pretend to be, but they aren't.

***

If you want voter fraud on a scale that can impact the election results, look to what the Republicans did in Georgia and are getting sued over:

https://mailchi.mp/gregpalast/ny-times-georgiapalast-black-voters-matter-sue-over-20000-purged-voters

There's for-reals evidence in this case, not just Uncle Rudy's Nutcase Brigade telling tales out of school.

I'll respond to this with my Zzz impersonation:

Bull, they're all liars.  Up is down and black is white. 

[Zzzptm]

OK, so your response to a valid suit against the State of Georgia for ~200K Black voters improperly removed from the records is to deny it happened while you cling to your irrational belief in Trumpism.

OK, coolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcool...

[Vyn]

This lady had been a staple of the Kansas City jazz scene for many years. Four years go she was diagnosed with breast cancer, and at 10:30pm on November 24th it killed her.

She recorded this video in her living room two months prior to that.

It's probably apparent that she has on a lot of makeup and her hair is not her own. What may not be apparent is that she was in the kind of pain only people who have that shit can understand. This was her last performance before she resigned herself to oblivion.

[Zzzptm]

^ I'm always moved by people who take the approach of a finality and face it with duty, dignity, and without having fear overwhelm them. I've got a new hero. Thanks, Vyn.

[Typhon]

But back to the topic at hand, if there is wholesale election fraud going on, I want it to be found out and those involved prosecuted. In fact, they can get shot by firing squad as traitors and I'd be cool with that.

Well okay then!  Lets start the investigations and get the firing squads ready. 

[Zzzptm]

Or not, if you're basing it on the faulty assumptions, anonymous accounts, and improper analysis of cellphone location data. Zero actual evidence to back up allegations made in the film.

It's very similar to the Flat Earth Society material, MUFON, and other pseudoscience groups that will cling to their central myths, all the while denouncing proof of their falsehoods as part of a vast conspiracy against them. It's a no-win situation for anyone trying to explain the inherent falsehoods in the wild ravings. There's an a priori assumption that anything that proves the central myth false to be itself false.

If you want the cult of Trump to be your religion, that's your business, though. Just know it for what it is: an irrational belief that encourages its followers to acts of extremist violence. If that's what you want to be part of, so be it.