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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #105 on: May 12, 2018, 12:20:01 AM »
BS > SBS
BA > CP

1. Black Sabbath 10
2. Paranoid 17
3. Master of Reality 17
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 15
6. Sabotage 16
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 13
2. Eternal Idol 11
3. Cross Purposes 14
4. Forbidden 12
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #106 on: May 12, 2018, 01:31:05 AM »
MOR < Sab
BA > CP

1. Black Sabbath 10
2. Paranoid 17
3. Master of Reality 15
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 15
6. Sabotage 17
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 14
2. Eternal Idol 11
3. Cross Purposes 12
4. Forbidden 12
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #107 on: May 12, 2018, 05:38:19 AM »
SBS > MOR
CP > BA

OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 10
2. Paranoid 17
3. Master of Reality 13
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 16
6. Sabotage 17
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 12
2. Eternal Idol 11
3. Cross Purposes 13
4. Forbidden 12
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #108 on: May 12, 2018, 06:09:46 AM »
Points go from Sabotage to Master Of Reality and from Eternal Idol to Cross Purposes

OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 10
2. Paranoid 17
3. Master of Reality 14
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 16
6. Sabotage 15
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 12
2. Eternal Idol 9
3. Cross Purposes 14
4. Forbidden 12
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2018, 09:46:27 AM »
Question to Charger: do you think that Forbidden is better than Eternal Idol?

OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 8
2. Paranoid 17
3. Master of Reality 14
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 16
6. Sabotage 16
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 12
2. Eternal Idol 10
3. Cross Purposes 14
4. Forbidden 10
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)

Forbidden gives to Eternal Idol, EI makes a plea to have Forbidden go out next.

BS loses 2 to Sabotage.
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #110 on: May 12, 2018, 05:36:49 PM »
Quote from: Zzzptm on May 12, 2018, 09:46:27 AM
Question to Charger: do you think that Forbidden is better than Eternal Idol?


I do indeed....there are more tracks on Forbidden that I enjoy than on Eternal Idol....

On ET there's The Shining (which granted is better than anything on Forbidden), Ancient Warrior, Hard Life To Love, Born To Lose and Eternal Idol that are great.

But on Forbidden there are Illusion Of Power, Get A Grip, Can't Get Close Enough, Shaking Off The Chains (one of Tony's best riffs), Guilty As Hell, Forbidden and Kiss Of Death that are great..

So it really comes down to numbers. One Suberb track and 4 great ones vs. 7 great ones.

The potential on ET was always there but the unsteady line-up and the lack of really good writing partner for Tony made it a bit of a mixed bag...less so obviously than Seventh Star but still more so than on the later albums.
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2018, 06:05:15 PM »
Quote from: Charger on May 12, 2018, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Zzzptm on May 12, 2018, 09:46:27 AM
Question to Charger: do you think that Forbidden is better than Eternal Idol?


I do indeed....there are more tracks on Forbidden that I enjoy than on Eternal Idol....

On ET there's The Shining (which granted is better than anything on Forbidden), Ancient Warrior, Hard Life To Love, Born To Lose and Eternal Idol that are great.

But on Forbidden there are Illusion Of Power, Get A Grip, Can't Get Close Enough, Shaking Off The Chains (one of Tony's best riffs), Guilty As Hell, Forbidden and Kiss Of Death that are great..

So it really comes down to numbers. One Suberb track and 4 great ones vs. 7 great ones.

The potential on ET was always there but the unsteady line-up and the lack of really good writing partner for Tony made it a bit of a mixed bag...less so obviously than Seventh Star but still more so than on the later albums.

OK, then. I can understand where you're coming from. I still prefer EI to F, so we'll just keep that dance going. :smug:
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #112 on: May 12, 2018, 11:28:56 PM »
MoR > Sabo

CP > BA

OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 8
2. Paranoid 17
3. Master of Reality 15
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 16
6. Sabotage 14
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 10
2. Eternal Idol 10
3. Cross Purposes 15
4. Forbidden 10
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #113 on: May 13, 2018, 01:49:24 AM »
The first was better than the second
Gillan was a better fit for Sabbath than T. Martin, even with Geezer

OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 9
2. Paranoid 15
3. Master of Reality 15
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 16
6. Sabotage 14
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 11
2. Eternal Idol 10
3. Cross Purposes 13
4. Forbidden 10
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #114 on: May 13, 2018, 03:08:15 AM »
Here here Billy. Born Again is the most authentic outside of the Ozzy & Dio era's.
And for that reason I take from CP and give to BA

OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 9
2. Paranoid 15
3. Master of Reality 15
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 14
6. Sabotage 15
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 12
2. Eternal Idol 10
3. Cross Purposes 11
4. Forbidden 10
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #115 on: May 13, 2018, 03:13:28 AM »
Quote from: Jack the Stripper on May 13, 2018, 03:08:15 AM
Here here Billy. Born Again is the most authentic outside of the Ozzy & Dio era's.

Well, i would ofcourse dare say that one album is even more authentic than all four Dio albums too. Put together... :))
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #116 on: May 13, 2018, 04:36:49 AM »
SBS > MOR
CP > BA

OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 9
2. Paranoid 15
3. Master of Reality 13
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 15
6. Sabotage 15
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 10
2. Eternal Idol 10
3. Cross Purposes 12
4. Forbidden 10
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2018, 06:14:32 AM »
Master of Sabotage

And Cross Purposes is the best album without Ozzy or Ronnie.

OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 9
2. Paranoid 15
3. Master of Reality 14
4. Vol 4 16
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 15
6. Sabotage 13
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 10
2. Eternal Idol 8
3. Cross Purposes 13
4. Forbidden 10
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #118 on: May 13, 2018, 08:36:31 AM »
OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 9
2. Paranoid 15
3. Master of Reality 14
4. Vol 4 14
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 15
6. Sabotage 14
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 10
2. Eternal Idol 9
3. Cross Purposes 13
4. Forbidden 8
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)

V4 gives 2 to Sab
F gives 2 to EI
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Re: Help / Hurt Game: Sabbath Versus Sabbath
« Reply #119 on: May 13, 2018, 11:20:59 AM »
OZZY ERA

1. Black Sabbath 10
2. Paranoid 15
3. Master of Reality 14
4. Vol 4 12
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 15
6. Sabotage 14
7. Never Say Die! (7th place)
8. 13 (8th place)
9. Technical Ecstasy (9th place)

DIO ERA

1. Mob Rules WINNER
2. Heaven and Hell (2nd Place)
3. Dehumanizer (3rd Place)
4. The Devil You Know (4th Place)

ALL OTHER ERAS

1. Born Again 11
2. Eternal Idol 9
3. Cross Purposes 11
4. Forbidden 8
5. Seventh Star (5th Place)
6. TYR (6th Place)
7. Headless Cross (7th Place)

The debut album being that far behind is a complete travesty! Travesty!!! It appears to be going next, but I simply must give it a meaningless heal. I'll take from Vol. 4. Other eras, do I really have to heal any? Oh well. Heal Born Again, hurt CP.

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