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Title: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on February 16, 2018, 12:07:53 PM

So Firepower is coming out next month.

We've heard two songs from it...neither have been great but not bad either. Firepower is musically pretty awesome but Rob really halfassed his vocal melody there...same thing he did with the title track on the previous album.

Ofcourse there's also Glenn's Parkinson's which is really really really sad...

Don't know much about Andy Sneaps guitar playing skills but I am rather sure if Glenn hand picked him for his replacement he can't be all that bad.



But now for the big question that is in everyone's mind:
Should Priest now finally hang it up after this tour?

I say yes.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on February 16, 2018, 12:39:18 PM

So Firepower is coming out next month.

We've heard two songs from it...neither have been great but not bad either. Firepower is musically pretty awesome but Rob really halfassed his vocal melody there...same thing he did with the title track on the previous album.

Ofcourse there's also Glenn's Parkinson's which is really really really sad...

Don't know much about Andy Sneaps guitar playing skills but I am rather sure if Glenn hand picked him for his replacement he can't be all that bad.



But now for the big question that is in everyone's mind:
Should Priest now finally hang it up after this tour?

I say yes.

Some bands can rock into their seventies... but those octogenarians... I've heard men say, "Oh! To be 70 again!" Eventually, people have to realize that they've had their run and it's time to bow out.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on February 20, 2018, 05:37:29 AM
Happy for them to release the album and go on a long world tour.... Then I would like to see them bow out. 2/3 of the songwriting team has gone. It's pretty much Halford solo band now.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on February 20, 2018, 06:50:54 AM
Yeah Jack I agree...this should be their last tour....and maybe end it with a big show with Glenn doing few songs and then bring KK and Tim back to do few songs too...

But I know that won't happen...KK won't come back as long as Jayne Andrews is involved.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Scott on March 03, 2018, 04:21:43 AM
KK recently posted that he thought he might have been asked to step in for the tour. Which led to that whole misinterpretation that Rob thought KK meant that Andy Sneap played Glenn's parts. Would have been nice for him to have been asked, but it never would have happened given the current situation.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on March 03, 2018, 04:27:39 AM
Indeed...I found it rather interesting and sad really. KK was ready to bury the hatchet (if there even really was one to bury) but then again he did leave on his own so I can also fully understand why the band might not have even considered him.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Thelemech on March 03, 2018, 08:32:23 AM
I love Priest but sometimes it is better to bow out then continue on in a diminished capacity and soiling your reputation.
I am not even that interested in the new album, although I will be buying it as I have all the other JP albums and they are basically a automatic purchase.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on March 07, 2018, 03:07:54 AM
Seems the album is getting nothing but positive reviews which is encouraging but I'll take them with a grain of salt until I give it a good & proper listening myself.

It's out Friday here but I preordered a fully signed vinyl from pledge music and that's gonna take at least a couple of weeks to arrive once it's shipped so will pick up the limited deluxe cd mediabook edition until then.
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/metal-hard-rock/firepower-limited-deluxe-mediabook-edition/562635/
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on March 07, 2018, 05:59:17 AM
It's out on friday here too...I preordered the digipack cd a long time ago too...I doubt I'll be getting it before the release date though...and taking into consideration to speed(less) of the Finnish postal service I'll be lucky if I'd get it even during next week...

It's been getting really strong reviews but honestly I really don't read much into them...I have quite often found myself disagreeing with a lot of reviewers on a lot of bands and albums.

EDIT:
Got a surprising e-mail just now. My cd has been shipped...so I should actually get it on monday!  :wootwoot:
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on March 14, 2018, 05:47:40 AM
Priest kicked off the tour last night...

Rob sounds pretty decent here actually....but for a band that had one of the most iconic guitar duos in the world....this just isn't the same anymore...Andy Sneap really really really doesn't belong here...

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on March 14, 2018, 05:59:33 AM
Priest kicked off the tour last night...

Rob sounds pretty decent here actually....but for a band that had one of the most iconic guitar duos in the world....this just isn't the same anymore...Andy Sneap really really really doesn't belong here...


Love that song, so glad they've finally played it. Apparently the setlist was cut a little short due to a few technical issues which might explain there only being 3 new songs in the set.

Andy does look a little out of place but someone had to fill in for Glenn and as long as they're nailing their parts I don't mind who it is.

Loving Firepower btw.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Vyn on March 14, 2018, 06:40:15 AM

Loving Firepower btw.

Same here - and I agree with the idea that they should knock out this tour and leave on top.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on March 18, 2018, 11:06:33 AM
Pretty cool:
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priest-scores-first-u-k-top-10-album-in-38-years-with-firepower/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priest-scores-first-u-k-top-10-album-in-38-years-with-firepower/)

Judas Priest has made their first Top 10 UK chart entry since the British Steel album.

I can imagine Glenn's situation has caused a lot of publicity to the band and boosted the sales quite a bit. Also the fact that this might very well be the last ever Priest album hasn't hurt either..

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on March 19, 2018, 04:32:24 AM
Aaaaand #5 on the Billboard!!!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priest-scores-highest-charting-album-ever-in-u-s-with-firepower/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priest-scores-highest-charting-album-ever-in-u-s-with-firepower/)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on March 22, 2018, 12:25:53 AM
Seeing this warms the cockles of my heart.

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on March 22, 2018, 05:59:04 AM
Great to see Glenn on stage! He looks like he is having the time of his life up there again!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Tyr66 on March 26, 2018, 12:21:17 PM
Who could have been the guy to play all parts of Glenn including solos and not Faulkner. What a weird idea.

Some names come into my mind:
Roy Z, Marty Friedman, Doug Aldrich, Pat Lachman, Hank Shermann ...

any thoughts ?
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on March 26, 2018, 12:47:03 PM
Ralph Santolla and Al Pitrelli come to mind right away. Roy Z would have had the obvious connection being a part of Rob's solo band...

Don't think Doug Aldrich would have been a good fit though...he's not really a Priest style guitarist.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Tyr66 on June 27, 2018, 10:30:33 AM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ian-hill-lists-reasons-why-k-k-downing-wasnt-asked-to-rejoin-judas-priest/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ian-hill-lists-reasons-why-k-k-downing-wasnt-asked-to-rejoin-judas-priest/)
The KK bashing continues within Judas Priest, this time it is Ian Hill who confides his doubts about the real reasons for Downing to return in the band, his lack of stage performances for years but also his technical abilities to play parts of Glenn. But also his absence on the last 2 albums!?!?
WTF ?
just one thing, fans want KK on stage despite his awkwardness during his supposed insinuations on recorded games of Tipton on Firepower. Whether it ok to Hill or not, KK IS and will remain the icon of Priest with Halford. For the basic fan who knows Priest without having sought to know more in depth the history of the band, He is the Guitarist of Judas Priest. We ,Die-Hard fans, obviously know the important role of Glenn of course as well as the longevity of the most gluedfeet bassist on stage allows him to say certain things but to hold these words is simply embarrassing and disrespectful for the fans and the band. Also note the presence of Faulkner during this interview. Not very glorious from Ian , this musician who wants to look more and more like Geezer. No risk of confusion.
Stop bashing Downing !
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on June 27, 2018, 04:10:43 PM
Not sure how you could conclude that he bashed Downing? He was asked the question and gave a straight answer. You have to remember Downing officially,retired 8 years ago and was the first to fire a shot at JP. His comment insinuating someone else played Glenn's parts on Firepower were beneath the belt and uncalled for...
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on June 28, 2018, 03:05:12 AM
Well this is a two part issue I think..

As much as I love KK and his playing he did first come out and ponder why he wasn't asked...although I pondered the same thing. He should have been their first call BUT then again I also understand the bands point of view as Ken did retire.

But bringing his abilities to play into question without knowing anything is a shot under the belt though and totally uncalled for. From what I've gathered KK has been playing guitar constantly when ever he's had the spare time so I doubt his abilities to play have diminished in any way...BUT then again he would have had to learn all of Glenn's parts whose playing style is different.

Also ofcourse the main reason for KK leaving in the first place was Jayne Andrews...it was clear that those two did not see eye to eye on things...I doubt that fact has changed over the years either.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on June 28, 2018, 08:38:35 AM
He only said that K.K. wouldn't be at the peak of his powers considering he hasn't set foot on a stage in 8 years which is a fair comment. He'd be more than a little rusty.

I find K.K's comment to be a bit bizarre tbh considering when he retired he asked the band to not try and persuade him to come back. I don't think he had any desire to play with them even if asked...As Ian said, he was being a bit mischievous!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on August 02, 2019, 02:03:33 AM
K.K. will apparently be performing with Ross The Boss(legendary Manowar guitarist) at UK's Bloodstock Open Air festival on August 11. I assume they'll be playing mostly early Manowar material and maybe some Priest songs.

Seems a bit out of the blue and a slightly odd pairing. Still be interesting to see and hear K.K playing again. Has been too long  :guitar:
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on August 02, 2019, 04:33:05 AM
I'm looking forward to hearing KK play again... There has been no mention on who the rest of the band are gonna be...I would love to see Tim do the vocals but I doubt that'll happen...that guy is just bit too busy at the moment.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on August 02, 2019, 04:38:38 AM
Oh and on a Judas Priest related note:

https://www.thegreatfroglondon.com/product/judas-priest-skull-ring/?fbclid=IwAR1NFd8yGsy0UcLFjdKyVZyED2eIlL_BvavLjk4NG1fL14AHR71BYcOPAJ8 (https://www.thegreatfroglondon.com/product/judas-priest-skull-ring/?fbclid=IwAR1NFd8yGsy0UcLFjdKyVZyED2eIlL_BvavLjk4NG1fL14AHR71BYcOPAJ8)

260£ for a Judas Priest ring... hahah! No thanks.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on August 02, 2019, 05:02:46 AM
I'm looking forward to hearing KK play again... There has been no mention on who the rest of the band are gonna be...I would love to see Tim do the vocals but I doubt that'll happen...that guy is just bit too busy at the moment.
It'll just be Ross The Boss's regular touring band of virtual unknowns.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on August 02, 2019, 05:18:30 AM
I'm looking forward to hearing KK play again... There has been no mention on who the rest of the band are gonna be...I would love to see Tim do the vocals but I doubt that'll happen...that guy is just bit too busy at the moment.
It'll just be Ross The Boss's regular touring band of virtual unknowns.

Oh bugger.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on August 12, 2019, 07:51:11 AM
KK proving here 10 years off stage means nothing to some people:

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on August 12, 2019, 08:00:35 AM
Great seeing KK back on stage. He sounded great too. Seems a no brainer he gets his gig back in Priest, especially with their 50th Anniversary celebration next year. The man's still got it.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on August 12, 2019, 08:32:26 AM
Great seeing KK back on stage. He sounded great too. Seems a no brainer he gets his gig back in Priest, especially with their 50th Anniversary celebration next year. The man's still got it.

My thoughts exactly... But sadly there's so much bad blood between Priest and KK nowadays I can't honestly see it happening though...I'd love to see it happen but....
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on August 12, 2019, 09:59:44 AM
Great seeing KK back on stage. He sounded great too. Seems a no brainer he gets his gig back in Priest, especially with their 50th Anniversary celebration next year. The man's still got it.

My thoughts exactly... But sadly there's so much bad blood between Priest and KK nowadays I can't honestly see it happening though...I'd love to see it happen but....

There certainly are some "ugly divorces" in music... sad to see them happen, but they tend to be inevitable...
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on August 12, 2019, 03:03:47 PM
^^And it mostly always comes down to money & ego. Some think they contribute more and are worth more to the band than others.

Andy Sneap, a great producer and guitar player in his own right, but he doesn't belong in Judas Priest. Sadly for KK, in the unlikely chance he is offered a spot back in the band, he'd probably be the lowest paid or on the same deal Sneap is on to play gigs. Glenn Tipton who virtually doesn't play with the band anymore is still likely the highest paid member of the band along with Rob.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 06, 2019, 05:20:11 AM
Oh god.... Rob's at it again:

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rob-halford-to-release-new-christmas-album-celestial-in-october/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rob-halford-to-release-new-christmas-album-celestial-in-october/)

 :wall: :wall:
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Typhon on September 06, 2019, 07:37:14 AM
Oh god.... Rob's at it again:

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rob-halford-to-release-new-christmas-album-celestial-in-october/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rob-halford-to-release-new-christmas-album-celestial-in-october/)

 :wall: :wall:
Are you anti-Christmas?
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 06, 2019, 07:43:15 AM
Oh god.... Rob's at it again:

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rob-halford-to-release-new-christmas-album-celestial-in-october/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rob-halford-to-release-new-christmas-album-celestial-in-october/)

 :wall: :wall:
Are you anti-Christmas?

Well sort of but I'm more anti-horrible versions of horrible christmas songs. ;D
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 06, 2019, 08:13:52 AM
Oops...goddamnit!


Sorry typhon I accidentally ended up removing your post.

But to answer to the question...


No no I will not be caroling this year...just like I have not been caroling every single year before. ;)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Typhon on September 06, 2019, 08:57:37 AM
^^^^^^
This may help:

In Windows -->  Ctrl-Z = undo
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on September 06, 2019, 09:38:59 AM
Who cares really? Not like you have to buy it or anything ;)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 07, 2019, 07:47:01 AM
^^^^^^
This may help:

In Windows -->  Ctrl-Z = undo

Nope. Once you hit "post" it's done. Things that have already sent to the db cannot be undone.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Typhon on September 07, 2019, 10:18:00 AM
^^^^^^
This may help:

In Windows -->  Ctrl-Z = undo

Nope. Once you hit "post" it's done. Things that have already sent to the db cannot be undone.
Then you can "remove" your own post and do it over.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 07, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
^^^^^^
This may help:

In Windows -->  Ctrl-Z = undo

Nope. Once you hit "post" it's done. Things that have already sent to the db cannot be undone.
Then you can "remove" your own post and do it over.

Sure...but it still won't bring back your original post though. Once it's gone it's gone.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on September 10, 2019, 02:44:54 PM
^^^^^^
This may help:

In Windows -->  Ctrl-Z = undo

Nope. Once you hit "post" it's done. Things that have already sent to the db cannot be undone.
Then you can "remove" your own post and do it over.

Sure...but it still won't bring back your original post though. Once it's gone it's gone.

Never to be seen again... gone in a flash...
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on September 17, 2019, 06:40:18 AM
Whoa! Didn't see this coming but wow! Les Binks too.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-judas-priest-members-k-k-downing-les-binks-and-tim-ripper-owens-to-perform-bands-classic-songs-at-one-off-concert/

Now this would be great to see. Seems K.K will be handling all the guitar parts himself though.

Surely you gonna travel for this Charger? Especially given Blaze Bayley is also opening  :)

I wonder if they're planning more shows.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 17, 2019, 07:29:41 AM
Well fuck me! That is pretty darn awesome!

But no I couldn't afford to travel...Would be something to see though for sure.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 18, 2019, 11:11:54 AM
A.J. Mills from Hostile will be handling second guitar...

Don't know who he is nor the band but I hope he is good...

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/k-k-downing-les-binks-tim-ripper-owens-david-ellefson-second-guitarist-announced-for-upcoming-megapriest-fest/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/k-k-downing-les-binks-tim-ripper-owens-david-ellefson-second-guitarist-announced-for-upcoming-megapriest-fest/)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on September 18, 2019, 03:48:59 PM
You'd Imagine he'd be pretty good if he got the gig. Very curious with the setlist they're gonna come up with though.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 18, 2019, 03:52:58 PM
Yeah...agreed.

I'd imagine they'd do most of the classics and maybe a deeper cut or two and ofcourse something from Jugulator and Demolition too.

I'd love to hear Tim do Sinner...that's the one I know he'd absolutely shine on. And I was so bummed Priest didn't do it with him.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on September 18, 2019, 04:13:51 PM
Yeah...agreed.

I'd imagine they'd do most of the classics and maybe a deeper cut or two and ofcourse something from Jugulator and Demolition too.

I'd love to hear Tim do Sinner...that's the one I know he'd absolutely shine on. And I was so bummed Priest didn't do it with him.
Yeah definitely

Les is pushing 70 now, I know he still has his chops and has been active in recent years but I wonder how would he'd go playing Painkiller and Jugulator? Lol
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 19, 2019, 07:53:14 AM
Yeah...agreed.

I'd imagine they'd do most of the classics and maybe a deeper cut or two and ofcourse something from Jugulator and Demolition too.

I'd love to hear Tim do Sinner...that's the one I know he'd absolutely shine on. And I was so bummed Priest didn't do it with him.
Yeah definitely

Les is pushing 70 now, I know he still has his chops and has been active in recent years but I wonder how would he'd go playing Painkiller and Jugulator? Lol

Heh yeah! Scott's drumming was pretty darn different from Les' that's for sure. Painkiller might be a strech for him but I think something like Burn In Hell and Hell Is Home would be well within his abilities.

I'd like to hear atleast one or two deeper cuts...something that Rob couldn't pull off anymore. That would be awesome...like The Sinner or Dissident Agressor...or Exciter! Now that would be killer to hear again.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 04, 2019, 04:31:26 AM
Looks like it was one HELL of a show!!!

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/watch-k-k-downing-les-binks-tim-ripper-owens-and-david-ellefson-perform-judas-priest-classics/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/watch-k-k-downing-les-binks-tim-ripper-owens-and-david-ellefson-perform-judas-priest-classics/)


Wish I could have been there!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on November 04, 2019, 06:30:19 AM
Looks like it was one HELL of a show!!!

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/watch-k-k-downing-les-binks-tim-ripper-owens-and-david-ellefson-perform-judas-priest-classics/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/watch-k-k-downing-les-binks-tim-ripper-owens-and-david-ellefson-perform-judas-priest-classics/)


Wish I could have been there!
Yeah definitely. The whole band nailed it from what I've heard. K.K. still in fine form and Les Binks defies his age. Hope they decide to go on and make this an ongoing thing or at least play a few more shows.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 04, 2019, 07:14:53 AM
Agreed! It would be great to see these guys tour. But I don't see it happening though... Ripper is so goddamn busy all the time and Dave's cancer treatments have already ended so it does seem that Megadeth will be back next year again so David will be busy with that...
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on November 05, 2019, 12:20:36 AM
Agreed! It would be great to see these guys tour. But I don't see it happening though... Ripper is so goddamn busy all the time and Dave's cancer treatments have already ended so it does seem that Megadeth will be back next year again so David will be busy with that...
Does it really matter who's on bass though? Its not like it's a bona fide band yet. They don't even have a name. As long as K.K. Les and Ripper are there.

As for Ripper, I'm sure everything would take a back seat to go on tour with this band. It would probably be the most successful thing he's done or at least well recieved thing he's done since his Iced Earth days.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 05, 2019, 02:44:27 AM
Agreed! It would be great to see these guys tour. But I don't see it happening though... Ripper is so goddamn busy all the time and Dave's cancer treatments have already ended so it does seem that Megadeth will be back next year again so David will be busy with that...
Does it really matter who's on bass though? Its not like it's a bona fide band yet. They don't even have a name. As long as K.K. Les and Ripper are there.

As for Ripper, I'm sure everything would take a back seat to go on tour with this band. It would probably be the most successful thing he's done or at least well recieved thing he's done since his Iced Earth days.

Well yeah that's true...It doesn't have to be David on bass.

As far as Tim goes you gotta honor your agreements and deals obviously but yeah I'm sure he'd love to tour with KK.

KK did post a short message yesterday saying thank you and hinting that he would in fact love to put this show on the road too...so who knows.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 05, 2019, 07:36:51 AM
A review of the show:

http://metaltalk.net/lives/kk-downing-dave-ellefson-wolverhampton.php?fbclid=IwAR1OJVZEPJk3XJVnzWJ5f6VC8QsYOfMMse94Gsd8rS5f0zlKdNXcxoFaUZk (http://metaltalk.net/lives/kk-downing-dave-ellefson-wolverhampton.php?fbclid=IwAR1OJVZEPJk3XJVnzWJ5f6VC8QsYOfMMse94Gsd8rS5f0zlKdNXcxoFaUZk)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 06, 2019, 10:37:01 AM
SPECTACULAR!!!!!!!!!!



Video shot by my buddy Steve Russ!

But that preformance...good loooooord! I had never heard of AJ Mills before but damn...that guy can play too!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on November 06, 2019, 09:44:19 PM
Band sounds great! Especially given its their first show and wouldn't have rehearsed that much together.

I wanna see some footage of Before The Dawn, I know you're not a fan of that song charger but it was a big surprise in the set and a song Priest have never performed live before.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 07, 2019, 02:43:37 AM
Haven't seen any footage of that song actually. YET. Videos have been popping up through out the week so it is possible that one surfaces as well...Exciter is the other one that I haven't seen yet.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 07, 2019, 04:31:39 AM
I wanna see some footage of Before The Dawn, I know you're not a fan of that song charger but it was a big surprise in the set and a song Priest have never performed live before.

Ask and you shall receive Jack!

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on November 07, 2019, 05:49:27 AM
Thanks for that. Excellent stuff! Great control by Ripper and K.K.s solo was on point.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 07, 2019, 06:19:24 AM
I found myself quite enjoying that...worked better live than the studio version which lacks punch, this was actually quite heavy once it kicked in.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on November 07, 2019, 02:12:47 PM
Sounds a bit more empty compared to the studio version. Only difference here is the drums kick in with the solo, but Les is hardly playing with any oomph! Also Ripper doesn't sing it with the same emotion as Rob but still does a good job.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on May 07, 2020, 11:38:32 PM
Great article. I’ve always thought Stained Class is one of their very best and the pinnacle of their 70’s output. https://www.loudersound.com/features/how-judas-priest-made-stained-class-the-album-that-transformed-heavy-metal
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on May 08, 2020, 06:48:46 AM
Stained Class is an odd one...it's got some really amazing tracks and then a few meh ones...but then again that was the Priest thing in the 70s...

That's a long article...but if I get the time I'm gonna read it through.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on May 08, 2020, 02:14:37 PM
It is a good article. Thanks for the link, JtS!

The parts about getting the studio sound just right were fascinating to me.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on September 03, 2020, 12:52:15 AM
30 years of The Painkiller!!!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Judaspainkiller.JPG)

And here’s Rob’s isolated vocals
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Vyn on September 03, 2020, 05:07:40 AM
That vocal track is far out, hard to believe it's been 30 years!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 03, 2020, 07:48:00 AM
That was the best Rob has ever sounded...Painkiller was (is) a killer record. Rob never managed to capture that preformance live which is no surprise...I do ponder how many takes it took for him to record those vocals...he probably did it verse at a time..or maybe even line at a time.

It's always a big struggle between Defenders and Painkiller for the best Priest album but I think today I'd go with Painkiller. :)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on September 03, 2020, 10:35:54 AM
So is "Painkiller" about an analgesic like Tylenol or is it about a killer... who uses a lot of pain...? Or a killer who himself *is* in a lot of pain? Or is it about an anesthesiologist?
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 08, 2020, 06:59:43 AM
Bit of a different kind of a take on PAINKILLER!



Man Thomas is a wizard!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on October 08, 2020, 07:58:17 AM
Bit of a different kind of a take on PAINKILLER!



Man Thomas is a wizard!

I thought I was going to laugh my butt off, but then I heard the man play and... wow, that guy is GOOD. Like *enchantingly* so. Gotta +1 you for that, Charger. No question about it, the rules are clear, as that is awesome!

:awesome:
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 08, 2020, 08:00:12 AM
Thomas is brilliant! I've been following his career for years. He does some amazing things with an acoustic guitar.

One of the best acoustic guitarists I've ever seen. I had the pleasure of seeing him live with Blaze Bayley few years ago and damn...I just mean DAMN!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on October 08, 2020, 01:05:49 PM
His technique is amazing, no question.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 28, 2021, 04:58:30 AM
Well damn...this don't sound too good:

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priest-guitarist-richie-faulkner-hospitalized-for-major-medical-heart-condition-issues-remainder-of-u-s-tour-postponed/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priest-guitarist-richie-faulkner-hospitalized-for-major-medical-heart-condition-issues-remainder-of-u-s-tour-postponed/)


He's pretty young too...hopefully it's nothing overly serious.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on September 28, 2021, 08:35:30 AM
Oh wow, that is hard news.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 28, 2021, 12:48:30 PM
Emergency Heart Surgery:

https://www.themetalvoice.com/post/judas-priest-s-richie-faulkner-underwent-major-emergency-heart-surgery-now-stable-resting?fbclid=IwAR3VNbe88Rth0aTPVuA2ywygW4WOk2v1cGmtHdgZD0Yaj_lERKXJs8ytHO4 (https://www.themetalvoice.com/post/judas-priest-s-richie-faulkner-underwent-major-emergency-heart-surgery-now-stable-resting?fbclid=IwAR3VNbe88Rth0aTPVuA2ywygW4WOk2v1cGmtHdgZD0Yaj_lERKXJs8ytHO4)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on September 29, 2021, 08:32:41 AM
I hope he pulls through and gets back to normal life.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on September 29, 2021, 08:39:18 AM
That link isn't working for me. Do we know what type of surgery it was? If it was inserting a stent to open up a blockage then he could well be up and running again after a period of rest as if nothing had happened... if it's more serious then who knows?
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on September 29, 2021, 03:37:16 PM
Open Heart Surgery following a heart attack!

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priests-richie-faulkner-reportedly-underwent-10-hour-open-heart-surgery-after-heart-attack/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priests-richie-faulkner-reportedly-underwent-10-hour-open-heart-surgery-after-heart-attack/)

Yikes!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on September 29, 2021, 03:56:29 PM
Yes, that's serious, not just a blockage!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 06, 2021, 04:49:22 AM
It was pretty touch and go for Richie there I see:

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priests-richie-faulkner-suffered-an-aortic-aneurysm-during-louder-than-life-performance/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priests-richie-faulkner-suffered-an-aortic-aneurysm-during-louder-than-life-performance/)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on October 06, 2021, 06:24:53 AM
Touch & go? It’s a fucking miracle he’s still alive. To think he continued on playing Painkiller and didn’t miss a note while his heart was literally exploding in his chest is just insane. What a chilling & harrowing tale.

I loved and respected Richie and what’s he’s done for Priest before this but that love & respect is off the fucking charts now.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Tyr66 on October 06, 2021, 03:21:28 PM
We can clearly see that Richie is not very participatory with the audience as usual during Painkiller and the pain seems to come at the very end when he holds his chest and goes backstage. After learning what he went through, it's a real miracle that he's still with us. May he recover as best he can, no matter how long it takes but I think Priest will not be ready to go back on tour for a long time.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on October 08, 2021, 03:50:11 AM
Richie thanking his doctors

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 09, 2021, 04:36:59 AM
Video's not available... :(
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on October 09, 2021, 05:09:29 AM
Must’ve been deleted. I’m sure it would’ve been put up on YouTube without consent.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on October 09, 2021, 07:31:49 AM
Yeah, it worked yesterday.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on October 20, 2021, 04:12:47 AM
This girl is delightful. Love her reaction.

A fun watch

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on October 22, 2021, 04:01:17 PM
^^^
Yes, she's cute too. She did Stargazer which was posted in the Rainbow Rising Song By Song thread.

Her facial expressions are weird, but I like her. Not sure she really liked Painkiller though! ;)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on October 23, 2021, 02:56:52 AM
She did Victim of Changes too and was quite moved by it. Was really good at breaking down the way Rob uses his voice to fit different parts of the song.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on January 10, 2022, 09:09:38 AM
And Judas Priest is becoming more and more a parody act of themselves...

Now they're going to preform as a four piece band...with a single guitar player...what a joke.
I mean this is supposed to be the band that pretty much invented the dual guitar assault in metal and now it's like a bad cover band who couldn't find (or afford) a second guitar player.
Good lord...I mean sure Andy Sneap didn't fit the band at all but atleast they still had two guitars then....bye bye Judas Priest...Hello Rob and the Priestie boys.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on January 10, 2022, 10:59:31 AM
... and it's not like you can just double-track the one lead player. So do they plan to have a backing track in concerts for the second lead?
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on January 10, 2022, 03:47:51 PM
Yeah...double tracking the rythm is possible (cheating ofcourse but it is atleast doable and doesn't sound completely fake) but leads no way. So the songs will sound very thin and empty.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on January 11, 2022, 04:28:27 AM
Seems a strange decision but the band obviously has their reasons. Can only think it’s a cost cutting exercise. Tipton would still be getting a good cut of the touring revenue such is his and Jayne Andrews pull in the band. Accept tried going as a four piece back in the Death Row era and it didn’t really work out. As great as Richie is to handle all the guitar parts I can’t see this working either given the twin guitar attack has always been a big part of Priest.

They’ll most likely use an off stage guitar player or something to fill out the sound, especially behind the solos, much like they did to fill out Tony Iommi’s sound on later tours with Heaven & Hell & Sabbath.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on January 11, 2022, 08:30:23 AM
Ah yeah, the backstage player... and he doesn't need any wardrobe or makeup, either.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on January 15, 2022, 01:04:00 PM
Well that didn't last long, Priest have done a U-Turn and Andy Sneap will now the 5th member of the group when they restart their tour in March!


https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/judas-priest-five-piece/?fbclid=IwAR0HK9QZz8NX18phdIAuIsRDrHlInz1CCQQuHgGVc_YXFGdyhdPUW3dkAEk (https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/judas-priest-five-piece/?fbclid=IwAR0HK9QZz8NX18phdIAuIsRDrHlInz1CCQQuHgGVc_YXFGdyhdPUW3dkAEk)
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on January 15, 2022, 01:23:51 PM
Not overly surprising as the fan backlash was pretty big from what I've gathered...even Glenn Tipton's brother said it was a dumb idea to drop the second guitar! :D

It is cool though that they would even listen to their fans at this point.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on January 15, 2022, 02:42:18 PM
I guess they wanted to sell tickets, after all. :smug:
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on January 16, 2022, 06:41:10 AM
Backlash was huge, probably a bit over the top tbh. But good to see they came to their senses.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Vyn on January 17, 2022, 05:25:33 AM
Yeah, caught that news. Smart move on their part.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on June 21, 2022, 07:29:41 AM
We saw The Charismatic Voices reaction to Painkiller (a few posts before this one). Now we have The Daily Doug's reaction to the same song. Doug Havering is a composer whereas Elizabeth (The Charismatic Voice) is a vocal coach, so they're not looking at this song in quite the same way.

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 07, 2022, 08:24:13 AM
Judas Priest got inducted to the Rock 'n Roll Hall Of Shame last weekend and here's the medley they played with KK and Les Binks!

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on November 07, 2022, 09:59:59 AM
Go Priest!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Vyn on November 09, 2022, 10:21:15 AM
Needs more drums.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 09, 2022, 10:37:53 AM
Yeah...damn that the one who liked to touch little boys died...otherwise I'm sure he would have been behind a third drum kit.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on November 10, 2022, 03:11:19 AM
Good choice to have Alice Cooper to induct them. Also good that the band and KK could put aside their differences to perform together again, although Glenn and KK looked liked they were intentionally staying well away from each other. Where’s Richie looked like he was really enjoying himself rocking out with KK.

Have to say, would’ve been nice if one of the band members had’ve given a shout out to every person that has played in the band that didn’t get inducted, especially Richie who was the only one standing up there during the speeches without a trophy.

RRHOF sucks balls anyway.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on November 10, 2022, 08:07:24 AM
Oh yeah... like, how long did it take for DP and BS to get inducted? Took 20 years for Sabbath 2006, 30 for Purple in 2016... No, well done to Priest for overcoming a lot of continuing resistance to hard rock and metal groups as RRHOF inductees. The induction classes simply need to be larger, there are so many bands of all the big eras and genres that deserve a bit of retrospective recognition. Rap didn't even get a mention until Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five in 2007, and that's a real shame, given that genre's impact globally. This is a whole "don't get me started" thing that looks to have gotten me started, lolz... :smug:


This is about Priest, and well done to them for their great and storied career. :yes:
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Ted Sallis on November 16, 2022, 10:00:26 AM
I saw JP's performance and induction into The Hall of Fame on YouTube; overall, I thought it looked fine: while they certainly didn't all look to be super cordial to each other, it also didn't appear as though everyone was giving everyone else the cold shoulder.  And yes, it was great seeing KK onstage playing with his old Group again.

Ted
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 23, 2022, 04:35:31 PM
The Full induction:




It is kind of funny to see that the most interaction was between KK and Richie! They looked like they were having the most fun together...which to me was bit surprising.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 08, 2023, 11:42:34 AM
Judas Priest announce new album Invincible Shield!

(https://townsquare.media/site/366/files/2023/10/attachment-judas_priest_invincible_shield.jpg?w=1080&q=75)

I have to say that's a rather power metal-y title and the artwork is quite cheapish and well horrible to be honest.

First single Panic Attack arrives next Friday...
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on October 08, 2023, 04:21:01 PM
The photos of the album leaked a couple of days ago. Whilst I’m not in love with the artwork I don’t think it’s terrible or anything either and has grown on me the more I look at it. The title is kinda odd but at least it’s not something as lame as “The Sinner Rides Again” or any other title that works in a song title from the past like what K.K.’s Priest is doing.

Have heard a song snippet of which must be Panic Attack and it’s sounds ultra heavy and groovy. Very different to anything I’ve heard from Priest before.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Vyn on October 08, 2023, 05:01:39 PM
Have heard a song snippet of which must be Panic Attack and it’s sounds ultra heavy and groovy. Very different to anything I’ve heard from Priest before.

That sounds intriguing!

The album title reminds me of a magic spell from dungeons and dragons game. With the countless fantasy-themed games out there, I am willing to bet that at least one of them has a magic spell with exactly that name.

I find the artwork to be "meh". It neither pulls me in nor pushes me away.

Really interested in catching that new song when it drops next week!

Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on October 09, 2023, 01:07:01 AM
Turns out it wasn’t Priest. Someone had posted up 2 videos. First was from the official JP YouTube channel of a video that had an electronic keyboard intro with the artwork and release details flashing through it while the 2nd one had the same concept video but wasn’t from the  official JP YouTube channel and was just the music from some other random band. I was thinking it sounded very different to Priest.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 09, 2023, 06:14:02 AM
Well I was wondering about that as the only thing I had heard was that horrid synth intro bit.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 13, 2023, 08:37:53 AM
The new single is out.




My good that synth intro is HORRIBLE! Hey Priest, the 80s called and they want their cheese back!


Rob's vocal melody is pretty good, but musically this is just modern priest by the numbers...there's nothing of interest there. And the guitar power that once was there is nowhere to be found...but then again neither are KK and Glenn...And they were 70 percent of what made Priest sound like Priest.

It's an okay song but that's about it.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Zzzptm on October 13, 2023, 09:54:33 AM
^ Makes me want to see a movie with The Karate Kid going toe-to-toe with Ferris Bueller after Molly Ringwald gets trained in jungle fighting by Rambo so all of them can beat all the posh preppy kids at the dance contest and then use the prize money to keep the local video game arcade open.

Very very very VERY 80s feel in that song.

The fact that the words come up karaoke-style only underlined the paint by numbers comment Charger made. I don't hate it, but I don't love it, either.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Vyn on October 13, 2023, 10:59:08 AM
Interesting - it's like "Turbo Lover: The Lost Tapes". I like it, of course I like Nostradamus as well :) But I wouldn't put it in the top half of their output, even though they managed to fit "wild neurotic memes' in there haha!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Jack the Stripper on October 13, 2023, 04:36:54 PM
Great riffs, great vocals, catchy melodies from Rob. Song rocks!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Ted Sallis on October 18, 2023, 09:41:49 AM
I listened to Panic Attack the other day.  I echo Z's comment above: I don't hate it, but I don't love it either.

Ted
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 18, 2023, 09:47:59 AM
Hey Ted! Good to see ya again bud!

I've listened to the song few times now and....no....it's a shame cause Rob's vocal melody for the verse is really really good but the rest of the song is just so meh that it's mehtastic.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Ted Sallis on October 18, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Hey Ted! Good to see ya again bud!

I've listened to the song few times now and....no....it's a shame cause Rob's vocal melody for the verse is really really good but the rest of the song is just so meh that it's mehtastic.

Thanks Charger.  I still try to visit this Forum at least once a week or so.  I agree with you regarding the overall quality of the song.

Ted
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Vyn on October 22, 2023, 02:24:22 PM
I usually shy away from live albums, although there are a few that I think are definitive. And in some cases they're better than the studio version. In any event, I listed to A Touch of Evil: Live today. This would be the CD version from the "The Complete Albums" collection. Damn, it sounded great! The musicianship, of course, is top notch, but the production was superbly executed.

While going through that little box set of CDs, I noticed that it completely disregarded the Ripper Owens albums. It comes with a booklet, and the written intro describes each album in the context of it's time. They finished talking about Painkiller, then they talked about how the original lineup got together in 2003. Wrote those two records with Owens out haha. Anyway, thought that was interesting!
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 22, 2023, 03:04:10 PM
The Touch Of Evil Live is a pretty decent live album but the fact that they spliced it together with stuff from the Priest Feast Tour and stuff from the Rising In The East is totally stupid. Had they just done a recording from the Priest Feast tour that would have been great...as that was probably the last tour Rob sounded good and the band was still Priest through and through. Also the setlist for that tour was one of the best ones they've ever done.

As for the travesty that is ignoring the Ripper era albums...well that's just that...a travesty. But Rob is the man in charge everything not Rob is not Priest as far as he's concerned. It's been a joke for 20 years and it'll be a joke for the end of Rob's Priest.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Vyn on October 24, 2023, 08:33:44 AM
So now I'm on a JP kick. Pulled out my copy of Nostradamus and got pissed off all over again due to the PVC leakage fucking up the vinyl. I thought, hey, I'll play the CDs since I now have a player. I discovered that the little hardback book that has two nice slots for the CDs is EMPTY. I don't recall ever taking them out, but maybe I did at some point. No idea where they would be, and frankly I'm leaning towards them just never having been there to begin with. Regardless, the end result is I have a box set of shit records, no CDs, and the only thing not hosed is the poster and the box itself.

And I don't have anything that will play that poster lol.

Fucking Nostradamus, the box set that keeps on giving. I don't know why I keep it around - I almost threw it in the trash last night, but refrained. The collector in me likes at least having the placeholder it represents.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on October 24, 2023, 09:08:07 AM
Well that's just a big fat turd of luck there bud!

No cds in the digibook!? Never heard of that before....and I've got quite a few of those and never had an issue...but I guess considering it must be manual labour putting those cds into those things mistakes could happen.

So I'm assuming those were picture vinyls in those hard plastic sleeves then? I had few of those as well...but I have not noticed any problems...I took them all out exept the Iron Maiden's Out Of The Silent Planet picture disc that is up on the wall....should probably change that too...but atleast the vinyl itself still looks good.
Title: Re: Judas Priest
Post by: Charger on November 17, 2023, 07:51:01 AM


Another new song from Priest...and another rather bland one...this one a quite a clear case of self plagiarism as it's a pretty near to Judas Rising..the fade in guitar intro and the vocal melody being practically the same...
Still not a fan of the guitar tone here...doesn't quite have that Priest punch to it now does it?

It's okay...but nothing to really write home about.