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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2020, 07:11:47 AM »
Next we come to Peace of Mind. I quite like the song but it's a strange one, I feel like it should be a much longer song but it ends just as it seems to get going. It's almost as if Rubin said we need a short song, edit that one down to 3:40 and they just cut 3 minutes off of it!
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2020, 07:41:30 AM »
Peace Of Mind is a good song...in fact I'd say it's probably the best song of the 3 bonus tracks.

The riff is brilliant...although it reminds me of another Iommi riff again but can't quite put my finger on which one right now...

Ozzy's preformance is also top notch here..among his best ones on the whole album actually.

I like the overall heavy groove of the song. And it's got a nice tempo change in the middle as well. It does however end quite abruptly...but it doesn't sound like it's edited out though...but after Ozzy's last line you do expect Tony to go into a frantic solo which then ends the song in a fade out like Neon Knights or something...that I guess is my only gripe here really...

I think I'm appreciating this song now more than when the album came out...honestly I can't remember anymore...and I can't be bothered going through the old sites posts to see my old review of the album...not that I wouldn't like reading it again but because I don't want to go to that place and search for it because I'd be forced to read some of the posts from BTE while doing it...and that's a hard:

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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2020, 08:23:35 AM »
Quote from: Charger on December 03, 2020, 07:41:30 AM
Peace Of Mind is a good song...in fact I'd say it's probably the best song of the 3 bonus tracks.

There are 4 bonus tracks.
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Peace Of Mind is another bonus track that is good enough for the main disc.  I agree with Charger that Tony could have done some solo magic to finish the song out.  But it is still a great tune even without that.
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2020, 08:45:09 AM »
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There were 4 bonus tracks if you got the Best Buy (?) version (not an option in most of the world), so most people only recognise there being 3 bonus tracks.
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2020, 08:56:11 AM »
Yeah NIB 2 was just a best buy bonus and that was only available in the US. The ACTUAL bonus disc only contains 3 songs.
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2020, 12:00:43 PM »
Quote from: Charger on December 03, 2020, 07:41:30 AM
Peace Of Mind is a good song...in fact I'd say it's probably the best song of the 3 bonus tracks.

The riff is brilliant...although it reminds me of another Iommi riff again but can't quite put my finger on which one right now...

Ozzy's preformance is also top notch here..among his best ones on the whole album actually.

I like the overall heavy groove of the song. And it's got a nice tempo change in the middle as well. It does however end quite abruptly...but it doesn't sound like it's edited out though...but after Ozzy's last line you do expect Tony to go into a frantic solo which then ends the song in a fade out like Neon Knights or something...that I guess is my only gripe here really...

I think I'm appreciating this song now more than when the album came out...honestly I can't remember anymore...and I can't be bothered going through the old sites posts to see my old review of the album...not that I wouldn't like reading it again but because I don't want to go to that place and search for it because I'd be forced to read some of the posts from BTE while doing it...and that's a hard:

:nono:

This gave me a laugh when I needed one. +1 to you, Charger, and thanks!
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2020, 12:15:59 PM »
Quote from: Zzzptm on December 03, 2020, 12:00:43 PM
Quote from: Charger on December 03, 2020, 07:41:30 AM
Peace Of Mind is a good song...in fact I'd say it's probably the best song of the 3 bonus tracks.

The riff is brilliant...although it reminds me of another Iommi riff again but can't quite put my finger on which one right now...

Ozzy's preformance is also top notch here..among his best ones on the whole album actually.

I like the overall heavy groove of the song. And it's got a nice tempo change in the middle as well. It does however end quite abruptly...but it doesn't sound like it's edited out though...but after Ozzy's last line you do expect Tony to go into a frantic solo which then ends the song in a fade out like Neon Knights or something...that I guess is my only gripe here really...

I think I'm appreciating this song now more than when the album came out...honestly I can't remember anymore...and I can't be bothered going through the old sites posts to see my old review of the album...not that I wouldn't like reading it again but because I don't want to go to that place and search for it because I'd be forced to read some of the posts from BTE while doing it...and that's a hard:

:nono:

This gave me a laugh when I needed one. +1 to you, Charger, and thanks!

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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2020, 02:58:56 PM »
Quote from: KiloDeltaCharlie on December 03, 2020, 08:45:09 AM
^^^
There were 4 bonus tracks if you got the Best Buy (?) version (not an option in most of the world), so most people only recognise there being 3 bonus tracks.

Quote from: Charger on December 03, 2020, 08:56:11 AM
Yeah NIB 2 was just a best buy bonus and that was only available in the US. The ACTUAL bonus disc only contains 3 songs.

Did not know this.  So you guys don't possess the song Naïveté In Black?
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2020, 03:12:03 PM »
^^^
Nope, I've heard it on YouTube and I quite like it, but it's never had a physical release in the UK or many other countries. I'm sorta hoping they'll release a special edition sometime including NIB and The End tracks.
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2020, 03:13:48 PM »
Quote from: Typhon on December 03, 2020, 02:58:56 PM
Quote from: KiloDeltaCharlie on December 03, 2020, 08:45:09 AM
^^^
There were 4 bonus tracks if you got the Best Buy (?) version (not an option in most of the world), so most people only recognise there being 3 bonus tracks.

Quote from: Charger on December 03, 2020, 08:56:11 AM
Yeah NIB 2 was just a best buy bonus and that was only available in the US. The ACTUAL bonus disc only contains 3 songs.

Did not know this.  So you guys don't possess the song Naïveté In Black?

Nope...I tried to by the Best Buy version back in the day but they did not ship to europe so that was not possible.
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2020, 03:36:50 PM »
Peace of Mind - nice heavy blues opening, reminds me of Peter Green with Fleetwood Mac. Liking that old school vibe to it. Then that middle part comes up and it's doomy, like a new-school stoner band before breaking into an 80s-sounding metal verse. This song is like a whiskey flight, lots of flavors to sample from some great batches.

Hang on, where's the end of the song? It's only got a beginning and a middle! :D

Meanwhile, I can get a bluesy beginning over on Now What?! with All the Time in the World. This song goes very well with Peace of Mind, actually. The DP tune plays it straight, so it's a bluesy middle - and end. The chorus is quite lovely, so again we got two great songs from two great bands.

So why weren't these bonus tracks in the main album? I mean, it's a CD, you can fit all the tracks on it and make it a standard release...
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #56 on: December 03, 2020, 04:33:27 PM »
Quote from: Zzzptm on December 03, 2020, 03:36:50 PM
So why weren't these bonus tracks in the main album? I mean, it's a CD, you can fit all the tracks on it and make it a standard release...

Because then you wouldn't be able to have an deluxe edition of which you can charge more money...
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #57 on: December 03, 2020, 05:37:15 PM »
Quote from: Charger on December 03, 2020, 04:33:27 PM
Quote from: Zzzptm on December 03, 2020, 03:36:50 PM
So why weren't these bonus tracks in the main album? I mean, it's a CD, you can fit all the tracks on it and make it a standard release...

Because then you wouldn't be able to have an deluxe edition of which you can charge more money...

Why would you think they're out for the money?

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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2020, 07:26:26 AM »
The last track on the standard Deluxe Edition is Pariah (but we will do NIB aswell).

This is a solid song without being great. I know some thought it was the best of the bonus tracks but I think it is the weakest. Ozzy's vocal melody is not his best, but musically it's fine, I actually rather like the soft start and the solo too is good.
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Re: 13 - Song By Song
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2020, 07:43:39 AM »
Pariah is a great song in every way.  Worthy of being a released hit, IMO.  A very catchy riff and the length is radio friendly.  I can't help but groove with this tune every time I hear it.   :partay:
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