Generals Gathered In Their Masses: The Battle of The Album Openers

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

CG > NSD

1. Black Sabbath - 23
2. War Pigs - 22
3. Sweet Leaf - 20
4. Wheels Of Confusion -20
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 27
6. Hole In The Sky - 25
7. Back Street Kids - 10
8. Never Say Die - 4
9. Neon Knights - 30
10. Turn Up The Night - 22
11. Trashed - 21
12. In For The Kill - 10
13. The Shining - 20
14.  Anno Mundi - 17
15. Computer God - 24
16. I Witness - 23
17. Atom And Evil - 16
18.  End Of The Beginning - 20

[Jack the Stripper]

Pigs > Mundi

1. Black Sabbath - 23
2. War Pigs - 23
3. Sweet Leaf - 20
4. Wheels Of Confusion -20
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 27
6. Hole In The Sky - 25
7. Back Street Kids - 10
8. Never Say Die - 4
9. Neon Knights - 30
10. Turn Up The Night - 22
11. Trashed - 21
12. In For The Kill - 10
13. The Shining - 20
14.  Anno Mundi - 15
15. Computer God - 24
16. I Witness - 23
17. Atom And Evil - 16
18.  End Of The Beginning - 20

[AnnoMundi]

I can’t believe Ozzy is losing to the Martin era.

+ NK - IFTK

1. Black Sabbath - 23
2. War Pigs - 23
3. Sweet Leaf - 20
4. Wheels Of Confusion -20
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 27
6. Hole In The Sky - 25
7. Back Street Kids - 10
8. Never Say Die - 4
9. Neon Knights - 31
10. Turn Up The Night - 22
11. Trashed - 21
12. In For The Kill - 08
13. The Shining - 20
14.  Anno Mundi - 15
15. Computer God - 24
16. I Witness - 23
17. Atom And Evil - 16
18.  End Of The Beginning - 20

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

Huh!

Two Martin era songs have already gone (HC and IoP), no Ozzy era has gone yet... but I'm trying to eliminate one of them.

[AnnoMundi]

Huh!

Two Martin era songs have already gone (HC and IoP), no Ozzy era has gone yet... but I'm trying to eliminate one of them.

I would think all the Martin era songs would be eliminated before any Ozzy song does, I see NSD! is about to knocked out.

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

^^^

Nah! The Martin era is underrated, there's some good stuff on those albums. And let's face it Ozzy isn't infallible to the occasional duff song, NSD is one of my least favourites, but it's not quite as bad as Changes, Am I Going Insane or God Is Dead?

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

Hole > Never

1. Black Sabbath - 23
2. War Pigs - 23
3. Sweet Leaf - 20
4. Wheels Of Confusion -20
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 27
6. Hole In The Sky - 26
7. Back Street Kids - 10
8. Never Say Die - 2
9. Neon Knights - 31
10. Turn Up The Night - 22
11. Trashed - 21
12. In For The Kill - 08
13. The Shining - 20
14. Anno Mundi - 15
15. Computer God - 24
16. I Witness - 23
17. Atom And Evil - 16
18. End Of The Beginning - 20

[Jack the Stripper]

Martin made Sabbath cheesy and I'll never forgive him for that.


1. Black Sabbath - 23
2. War Pigs - 23
3. Sweet Leaf - 20
4. Wheels Of Confusion -20
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 27
6. Hole In The Sky - 26
7. Back Street Kids - 10
8. Never Say Die - 3
9. Neon Knights - 31
10. Turn Up The Night - 22
11. Trashed - 21
12. In For The Kill - 08
13. The Shining - 20
14. Anno Mundi - 13
15. Computer God - 24
16. I Witness - 23
17. Atom And Evil - 16
18. End Of The Beginning - 20

[AnnoMundi]

^^^

Nah! The Martin era is underrated, there's some good stuff on those albums. And let's face it Ozzy isn't infallible to the occasional duff song, NSD is one of my least favourites, but it's not quite as bad as Changes, Am I Going Insane or God Is Dead?

There is a lot of good stuff in the Martin era, but better than the Ozzy era? I don’t think so.

+ NK - IFTK

1. Black Sabbath - 23
2. War Pigs - 23
3. Sweet Leaf - 20
4. Wheels Of Confusion -20
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 27
6. Hole In The Sky - 26
7. Back Street Kids - 10
8. Never Say Die - 3
9. Neon Knights - 32
10. Turn Up The Night - 22
11. Trashed - 21
12. In For The Kill - 07
13. The Shining - 20
14. Anno Mundi - 13
15. Computer God - 24
16. I Witness - 23
17. Atom And Evil - 16
18. End Of The Beginning - 20

[AnnoMundi]

Martin made Sabbath cheesy and I'll never forgive him for that.

I don't think that he made Sabbath cheesy, like Kilo said a lot of good Martin/Sabbath material, it's just his stage presence, but he was young and kind of green at the time, perhaps now he's gotten better.

[Jack the Stripper]

I think he was actually getting better at constructing melodies with his lyrics during CP and Forbidden, but then he lost the gig.

[AnnoMundi]

I think he was actually getting better at constructing melodies with his lyrics during CP and Forbidden, but then he lost the gig.

I think you’re right Jack, the songs started flowing better through Martin on those albums.

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

For me Headless Cross was the only really cheesey effort. Eternal Idol wasn't really his work, but I felt most of Tyr was cheese free (Feels Good To Me aside), CP is faultless and F has issues but not with anything cheese related.

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

TUTN > NSD

1. Black Sabbath - 23
2. War Pigs - 23
3. Sweet Leaf - 20
4. Wheels Of Confusion -20
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 27
6. Hole In The Sky - 26
7. Back Street Kids - 10
8. Never Say Die - 1
9. Neon Knights - 32
10. Turn Up The Night - 23
11. Trashed - 21
12. In For The Kill - 07
13. The Shining - 20
14. Anno Mundi - 13
15. Computer God - 24
16. I Witness - 23
17. Atom And Evil - 16
18. End Of The Beginning - 20

[Jack the Stripper]

Agree Kilo but I still think TYR has a good amount of cheese

1. Black Sabbath - 23
2. War Pigs - 24
3. Sweet Leaf - 20
4. Wheels Of Confusion -20
5. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 27
6. Hole In The Sky - 26
7. Back Street Kids - 10
8. Never Say Die - 1
9. Neon Knights - 32
10. Turn Up The Night - 23
11. Trashed - 21
12. In For The Kill - 07
13. The Shining - 20
14. Anno Mundi - 11
15. Computer God - 24
16. I Witness - 23
17. Atom And Evil - 16
18. End Of The Beginning - 20