Author Topic: So... What are the Rules Around Here? (Read 17073 times)

Charger · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2018, 08:19:27 AM »

Now I believe ZZZ is at the heart of things right here.

This is NEVER going to be a "yes ma'am yes sir" kind of a place..we won't all agree on everything and people who disagree won't just go "nah I guess you are right" and move on. Nor should it.

Some friendly discussion can be colored by some friendly jabs too. It is not that serious if someone calls someone thin skinned or what not. When things get personal with name calling and such then we will have a problem. But so far that hasn't happened, and with this group that we have here now I seriously doubt it will EVER happen. You are all cool enough to be above all that.

Sabbabbath · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2018, 09:21:49 AM »

Thanks for clarifying, guys. So this is just not my kind of space. As I said, different standards of politeness etc. I just don't see how "creating safe space echo chambers" would be the only alternative to "toughen our skins" in order to not feel insulted anymore by pejorative terms. I have never in my life seen a "safe space echo chamber", let alone been inside, but I still think I can demand others to behave. And yes, there are many, many ways of being more insulting than by calling somebody a sucker or thin-skinned, no doubt. But what kind of an argument is that?
My view is that in this world, most people's skins are already "thoughened" much too far. My vision is different: I'd like people to be more empathic with both themselves and others.
People who don't know better are free to interpret this as a confirmation that "thin-skinned" is just what I am. I am fine with that. For everybody else, you might, if you want, consider to think about possible interconnections between the kind of thing we've been discussing here and the proportion (or absence) of women from many forums such as these. THIS woman's reason to leave surely wasn't a lack of interest in rock music.
I wish you all a good time on The Community.
Best,
Linda

Charger · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2018, 09:45:26 AM »

Sorry to hear that, but you might be right then...This was meant to be a fun place and if you nit and pick about everything and seek out confrontation where there is none this might not be the place for you at all.

Nice way to try and make this about gender on your way out...not very nice at all. As nothing here had anything to do with that.

Zzzptm · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2018, 10:05:25 AM »

Sorry to see you go, Linda. Maybe the choice wasn't between just those two options and further discussion would have revealed a third way?

And I don't think you were advocating a creation of an echo chamber. I just wanted to be sure that we didn't put ourselves on a path that would create one such.

Again, I'm sorry.

Zzzptm · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2018, 10:12:45 AM »

That being said, if there are no other dissensions/questions/concerns, it seems that we have a consensus among the membership that we can tolerate a little sandpaper in our comments with the understanding that they should be kept mild and minimal.

I'd also say that if you make a slight jab, expect one in return and then leave it at that. If you're call someone a sucker, you might very well discover that you're a dupe in the eyes of that sucker. So it goes, get back to arguments with substance if you will...

Charger · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2018, 10:41:30 AM »

Indeed. That seems quite acceptable to me.

Typhon · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:44:28 AM »

I just tried to send Sabbabbath a PM, but it appears she has removed herself from the member list. Is anyone else able to pass along my message to her?

Zzzptm · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:45:53 AM »

Quote from: Typhon on March 21, 2018, 11:44:28 AM

I just tried to send Sabbabbath a PM, but it appears she has removed herself from the member list. Is anyone else able to pass along my message to her?

Certainly. Feel free to PM any of the mods/admins and we'll be able to pass it along to her.

Billy Underdog · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2018, 05:10:50 PM »

Quote from: Zzzptm on March 21, 2018, 08:08:35 AM

at least we all agree on how to handle gun permits for LGBT neo-Nazis seeking an abortion from a doctor of traditional medicine that might possibly be connected to Palestinian charities with links to pro-Brexit politicians.

Damn, was just thinking about creating that thread... Guess i'll just have to leave too then...

Quote from: Typhon on March 21, 2018, 11:44:28 AM

I just tried to send Sabbabbath a PM, but it appears she has removed herself from the member list. Is anyone else able to pass along my message to her?

I'm e-mailing with her, or atleast i will tomorrow because today have been a crappy day, just got home, and i just wanna have a little numbscull fun before i go to sleep. But PM or mail me, and i'll bring it directly to her doorstep.

Vyn · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2018, 05:18:33 PM »

Typhon · « **Reply #25 on:** March 23, 2018, 09:21:00 AM »

A few days ago I had Zzzptm relay a message from me to Sabbabbath. The following was that message:

Linda, I'll be the first to admit that I can be a bit rough around the edges. I tend to speak frankly, and sometimes that frankness can be mistaken for aggression. Especially by someone who is unfamiliar with me. But I will continue to speak frankly right hear and now.

IMO you are making a mistake in leaving the community. It is an overreaction. You are more of an emotional and sensitive person than I am. That does not mean I am better or worse, just different. In fact I think the world would be a better place with more sensitivity about. But you are allowing your emotions to have too much influence over the current situation, resulting in a bad decision. I believe the community would benefit from your participation. Besides, anyone who has the ability to recognize how good Black Sabbath music is, can't be all bad.

BOGBLAST · « **Reply #26 on:** March 23, 2018, 01:50:50 PM »

I E-mailed Linda a few days ago but have yet to receive a response. I know she sometimes has E-mail problems and I'm hoping that's the reason she hasn't written back. I hope she reconsiders her decision.

Jack the Stripper · « **Reply #27 on:** March 23, 2018, 09:17:25 PM »

Quote from: Typhon on March 23, 2018, 09:21:00 AM

A few days ago I had Zzzptm relay a message from me to Sabbabbath. The following was that message:

Linda, I'll be the first to admit that I can be a bit rough around the edges. I tend to speak frankly, and sometimes that frankness can be mistaken for aggression. Especially by someone who is unfamiliar with me. But I will continue to speak frankly right hear and now.

IMO you are making a mistake in leaving the community. It is an overreaction. You are more of an emotional and sensitive person than I am. That does not mean I am better or worse, just different. In fact I think the world would be a better place with more sensitivity about. But you are allowing your emotions to have too much influence over the current situation, resulting in a bad decision. I believe the community would benefit from your participation. Besides, anyone who has the ability to recognize how good Black Sabbath music is, can't be all bad.

You're a class act Typhon, always have been. You were missed at the other place so glad you decided to join here

Charger · « **Reply #28 on:** March 24, 2018, 05:12:06 AM »

Quote from: Jack the Stripper on March 23, 2018, 09:17:25 PM

You're a class act Typhon, always have been. You were missed at the other place so glad you decided to join here

Typhon · « **Reply #29 on:** March 24, 2018, 11:11:13 AM »

^^^^^^
^^^^^^
Thank you, both. I am honored.

Just remember, love is life and hate is living death...

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