22 Work Weeks on the Golf Course

[Typhon]

^^^^^^
I agree the emissions rules should not be rolled back.  However, the administration looks at it differently than you do.  Trump promised to eliminate the many restrictions on business that Obama had put in place, and this is one of them.

[Billy Underdog]

You are wrong.  A war is how my country got its freedom.

There's many thing i could reply to this, but... Naw, won it by an declaration of independence. Then the war happened.

[Typhon]

You are wrong.  A war is how my country got its freedom.

There's many thing i could reply to this, but... Naw, won it by an declaration of independence. Then the war happened.

And what do you think would have happened if we lost that war?  I know you are a "make peace, not war" type of person, but sometimes it takes a conflict to resolve something once and for all.

[Billy Underdog]

I know you are a "make peace, not war" type of person, but sometimes it takes a conflict to resolve something once and for all.

I'm really not, though, but which war is that, though? Wasn't WW2 supposed to be that? And still conflicts we see today can be trased back to that or older, related conflicts. A conflict "won" with war will always leave the other part so dissatisfied a conflict will keep going.

[Charger]

I'm really not, though, but which war is that, though? Wasn't WW2 supposed to be that? And still conflicts we see today can be trased back to that or older, related conflicts. A conflict "won" with war will always leave the other part so dissatisfied a conflict will keep going.

Well that is true, but sometimes war is the only way to go...especially when talking about getting or defending independence...

[Typhon]

^^^^^^
Correct.

I know you are a "make peace, not war" type of person, but sometimes it takes a conflict to resolve something once and for all.

I'm really not, though, but which war is that, though? Wasn't WW2 supposed to be that? And still conflicts we see today can be trased back to that or older, related conflicts. A conflict "won" with war will always leave the other part so dissatisfied a conflict will keep going.

I was talking about the Revolutionary War.  As far as WW2 goes, Germany and Japan are now allies.   

[Billy Underdog]

Well that is true, but sometimes war is the only way to go...especially when talking about getting or defending independence...

Name once the last 100 years that've actually worked longtime...

I was talking about the Revolutionary War.

So that resolved everything once and for all..? Ok...

[Vyn]

I was talking about the Revolutionary War.

So that resolved everything once and for all..? Ok...

As far as the USA getting out from under the thumb of King George III, it certainly did.

[Typhon]

I was talking about the Revolutionary War.

So that resolved everything once and for all..? Ok...

As far as the USA getting out from under the thumb of King George III, it certainly did.

And we have not had a military battle with England since.  That's more than 200 years.

[Billy Underdog]

And everything was just peace and happiness forever after... 

[Charger]

And everything was just peace and happiness forever after... 

Well between the US and the UK it was...they are some of the strongest allies now.

[Zzzptm]

Hold on there... there was a thing called the War of 1812 in which the USA declared war on England, ostensibly over freedom of the seas, but with the ulterior motive of acquiring Upper Canada. Following that, tensions did remain high, almost erupting into war over things like lumberjacks in Maine and pigs on the West Coast. Although treaties were able to settle boundary disputes, the USA almost got England to join with the CSA in the Civil War over intercepting Confederate diplomats en route to England on a British ship.

Since then, there was a healthy amount of anti-British skepticism in the USA until around after the Spanish-American War in which the USA acquired a global empire and became a good bit more like England as a result. Once on the world stage, having good terms with the world's biggest navy made sense.

Geopolitically, there is a lot of overlap in US and UK desires, so it's natural for them to stay allied... for now...

[Typhon]

Hold on there... there was a thing called the War of 1812 in which the USA declared war on England, ostensibly over freedom of the seas,

This ended in 1815.  Since then, no conflicts, over 200 years.

[Typhon]

Possibly another underreported story of the federal government doing its job:

Federal agents raided an eastern Tennessee meatpacking facility on Thursday following a months-long investigation into allegations the owners were employing illegal immigrants to avoid paying millions of dollars in taxes, according to court records.
Agents with the IRS and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) served a search warrant at cattle slaughterhouse Southeastern Provisions, which has allegedly been hiring immigrants without work authorization since 2008 and hiding it from tax collectors.
The illegal hiring practices allowed owners James and Pamela Brantley to avoid paying $2.5 million in payroll taxes, reported the Knoxville News Sentinel, citing an IRS search warrant affidavit.

Agents encountered 97 people working at the plant during the raid, ICE spokeswoman Tammy Spicer said in a statement Friday. Of those, 11 were arrested on criminal charges, while the remaining 86 were held pending immigration status checks. Ultimately, 54 workers were detained for further immigration proceedings, according to Spicer.
The raid comes as President Donald Trump’s administration has sought to more closely scrutinize companies that hire illegal immigrants or foreign nationals without proper work authorization. ICE Acting Director Thomas Homan said in 2017 he would make worksite enforcement investigations a priority, and his agency has since carried out several high-profile operations, including a nationwide audit of 7-Eleven stores that resulted in the arrest of 21 people in January.

The investigation into Southeastern Provisions began when Citizens Bank, where the Brantleys held accounts, notified authorities of suspiciously large cash withdrawals the company said were for “payroll,” according to the IRS affidavit. The Brantleys allegedly lied to the IRS about how much they paid themselves, filed false tax returns and exploited their employees, who were largely Hispanic illegal immigrants.

Immigration activists in Tennessee said the Southeastern Provision raid was the largest worksite enforcement operation under the Trump administration, reported The Associated Press. ICE declined to confirm that claim.

Previous administrations have let this kind of thing slide for a long time.

[Charger]

A massive for that!