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ROCK AND ROLL! => All Them Other Guys => Topic started by: Charger on January 07, 2021, 12:55:03 PM
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So the #1 Rock radio station in Finland starts a new project again for the new year and this time it's:
Radio Rock's Hall Of Fame! (https://kampanjat.supla.fi/radiorock-halloffame?fbclid=IwAR2dKHe1wdi4GceAfNdP4TegLSlRRt_9rKCKWlhdQ-B_Up8BEhC71Q2kKng)
Let's hope it'll be more fame than shame but then again you never know...
HOWEVER what makes this different from past years votes and lists and whatnots we've had here is that this isn't decided by idiot listeners or idiot hosts but the most legendary and iconic Rock reporter/radio host of all time mr. Klaus Flaming who has been doing rock radio for various different radio stations since the early 80s and is probably THE rock/metal connoisseur in Finland. His knowlage of all things rock is astonishing.
I'll try to post updates here when ever I get the chance...but you can check them out from the link yourself.
First entry to the Hall Of Fame was....
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Phil Lynott of Thin Lizzy.
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OK, I can dig a list that starts off with Phil Lynott! High hopes, here.
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I can't argue with Phil Lynott either.
How often is it being updated?
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Well, I'm all for talking about Phil Lynott and celebrating his legacy until they post a new entrant.
Man, I love that track... there would be no Iron Maiden without this song, try to convince me I'm wrong.
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Klaus Flaming? Never heard of him.
Is he as knowledgeable as Martin Popoff :problem:
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Klaus Flaming? Never heard of him.
Is he as knowledgeable as Martin Popoff :problem:
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Is he as knowledgeable as Martin Popoff :problem:
Probably about 100 times more knowledgeable...at least.
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Hmm... Just looked up Klaus’s bio.
Think I know who I’d back in ;) :smug:
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Well best move on then...nothing for you to see here then... ->
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Keep the trolling away from this one.
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^^I Will if you’d like me to. But just to clear something up. Klaus’s entries will be focusing more on individual artist/musicians rather than bands?
So for instance, it would be Lemmy rather than Motörhead?
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It does look like individuals.
Also it says "during 2021", so is this going to be all year, with like 2 weeks in between honoring performers?
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We are in no position to question Klaus Flaming!
Rockmusiikin ylin auktoriteetti!!!!!
I'm on board with his first pick, though.
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How often is it being updated?
I am not sure but I believe on a weekly basis.
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We are in no position to question Klaus Flaming!
Rockmusiikin ylin auktoriteetti!!!!!
I'm on board with his first pick, though.
Gonna learn some Finnish in the course of this excersise!
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Second entry was the drummer/singer of one of Finlands most legendary hard rock bands HURRIGANES, Remu Aaltonen.
Personally I'm not a big Hurriganes fan but they were quite influential back in the 70s.
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I hit refresh on that, still only see Phil Lynott...
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Yeah I understand... Hurriganes was not well known outside of Finland...part from Germany I think...
But I'm still gonna be posting these as they come eventhough some of them will be unknowns to you.
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Also you need to remember this is a Finnish rock station so there will be a lot of Finnish people in this as well. But you can very well just ignore them.
We could also think about doing a Hall Of Fame of Metal of our own...and see how many same names are there in the end?
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I don't know if you got what I was typing there... That Hurriganes guy does not display on the page when I go to https://kampanjat.supla.fi/radiorock-halloffame . It just shows Phil Lynott on Vikko 1 (assuming that's "week 1" in Finnish)
So, yeah, a board Hall o' Fame would be fun stuff.
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Ah...I thought you just said you ignored that entry and refreshed the list with just Lynott in it.
The site hasn't been updated I see...which is odd yes.
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Site is still not updated... so we better get to work on our own hall(s) of fame.
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Well okay this is the first real miss on the list...the first real travesty to say the least.
As this week's induction was:
Till Lindeman of Rammscheisse.... :wall:
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Oooh, owww, ewwww!
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Even crazy Alec agrees!
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lol
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Oh forgot to update this one.
This week's induction was
DAVID BOWIE
Not a fan personally but I think he does deserve a spot here...shitload more than some Till Lindeman!
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Yes, Bowie definitely deserves to be there. I only really liked his 70s output, not much after that.
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Is this a metal hall of fame or just a regular rock hall of fame?
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It's neither.
It's the Radio Rock's Hall Of Fame. ;D
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So a random Finnish drummer is ahead of Thin Lizzy? Crazy, man! :D
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So a random Finnish drummer is ahead of Thin Lizzy? Crazy, man! :D
No he is not random. Like I said Hurriganes is a very legendary band here in Finland and honestly much better known than Thin Lizzy.
You have to remember this is a FINNISH rock station not American.
But yeah looks like there is no interest in this stuff here anyways so I'll stop posting them....
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Well here's an entry that shouldn't offend or surprise anyone...the only sad thing really is that he's this low in the list...should have been in the final 10 in my honest opinion...
ALICE COOPER!!!!!
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Totally agree with Alice Cooper being on the wall of a Hall of Fame. His theatrics, like Bowie's made a LOT of future bands possible!
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As far as the next entry goes...a total unknown to me...
Mike Patton...
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As far as the next entry goes...a total unknown to me...
Mike Patton...
I've heard of that chap. Quite the range as a performer, I would say. :)
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I had to google him...from a band called Faith No More...and their biggest achievement seems to be a live cover of Sabbath's War Pigs...okay.
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Nah, their album Angel Dust was quite big back in the day (25+ years ago), but they haven't stayed around. Probably shouldn't be on the list! ;)
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OTOH, Patton's been doing a lot of really cool/unusual stuff over the years. Sort of a musician's musician, as it were. I can see him being cited as an influence. A bit of a hipster move, perhaps, but still valid.
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This week's induction was some dude from Birmingham who kinda invented Heavy Metal or something like that...
I'm sure none of you will like this anyways but the guys name was
TONY IOMMI
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The guy has redeemed himself!
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All righty then! Er, um... all *lefty* then! :D
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I don't foresee any disagreement with such a choice here.
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This week's induction is 80s big name mr. Jon Bon Jovi.
By the way if some of you are wondering this isn't a top 50 list or anything so the order of the inductions is totally random...but it does seem to go with their birthdays a bit...
Two weeks ago it was Alice Cooper who's birthday it was, last week Tony Iommi who's birthday it was and now Bon Jovi who's birthday is next week.
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I'm not really a fan of (Jon) Bon Jovi but I have to say that when they set their mind not to do "pop rock" they did do some good songs: Wanted Dead or Alive and Dry County spring to mind but they were too few and far between.
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I agree...Wanted Dead Or Alive, and Blaze of Glory are great tracks. But they did go bit too far to the pop department on some of their stuff. But when a Bon Jovi song come on the radio it's not an automatic head explosion.
Also no one can deny the huge impact Bon Jovi had especially in the mid 80s...
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I was once forced to attend a Bon Jovi concert in the mid 80s. The lady who would be my wife in just a few months' time and her friend had to go, and I had to go along. We got there, they bought t-shirts, and we couldn't help but notice all the little ankle biters there that wore the t-shirts like dresses. Cinderella rocked out good and hard for the opening act, but I could barely hear Bon Jovi over all the teenybopper screams, it was like living in a jet engine for 2 hours. I had the worst tinnitus after that concert.
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I had the worst tinnitus after that concert.
From the girls not the band?
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I had the worst tinnitus after that concert.
From the girls not the band?
Yes. A concert hall full of screaming pre-teens is HELL on the ears!
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I can imagine... I've been dragged to New Kids on the Block and Backstreet Boys concerts over the last decade*, their fans have not aged gracefully and hormone deprived 50+ women are no better than pre-teens! At least the Bon Jovi gigs had pseudo rock music to dull the pain!
* The girlfiend wouldn't go on her own and she doesn't have female friends prepared to go with her! >:(
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I have pretty much the same experience as you Z. Took a then girlfriend to a Bob Jovi show on the New Jersey tour and hated every second of it. As if the music and loud screaming girls wasn’t bad enough the stage set up was in the round but the stage was at one end and we were sitting behind the band who spent most of the show with their backs to us.
Still to this day the most unenjoyable show I’ve ever been to.
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Hello everyone and welcome to the Bon Jovi Concert Survivors Support Group.
Our guest speaker today is Dr. Karl Haverson, an expert in treating long-term hearing damage resultant from sustained, high-pitch screaming.
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I guess there are some good things about being too ugly for the ladies...never had to endure a Bon Jovi concert.
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It's an ordeal, for sure. I've undergone electroshock nerve testing and I think I prefer that to the Bon Jovi concert.
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This week's induction is HIM frontman Ville Valo.
HIM (although is a horrible band) is one of Finland's most internationally succesful bands...
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I think the only time I heard of HIM was from another Rock Radio ranking thing. But, yes, famous bands are likely candidates for halls of fame. You suppose the guy from Hanoi Rocks also makes the Hall of Fame?
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I think the only time I heard of HIM was from another Rock Radio ranking thing. But, yes, famous bands are likely candidates for halls of fame. You suppose the guy from Hanoi Rocks also makes the Hall of Fame?
I'm actually bit surprised as HIM was pretty big in the US... Tattoo artist Kat Von D for one was a huuuge fan...
Michael Monroe I am pretty sure is a lock for this yes.
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For me, though, I don't listen to the radio for recent music, I play the radio for oldies, blues, or Tejano. :D But that would be why I know nothing about HIM.
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For me, though, I don't listen to the radio for recent music, I play the radio for oldies, blues, or Tejano. :D But that would be why I know nothing about HIM.
And probably also cause it's girl music. :D
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I've know of them, maybe even heard some of their songs, but I couldn't name you any.
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Wonder if he'll also include Leningrad Cowboys?
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OOOOOOOPPPPPPSSS!
Looks like I screwed things up a bit..
Last week's induction was in fact STEVEN TYLER of Aerosmith....but the common factor is thankfully though that it's still girl music. :D
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OOOOOOOPPPPPPSSS!
Looks like I screwed things up a bit..
:sorry:
Steven Tyler is an interesting choice, it's like this guy is making picks at the edges before going all-in with bigger choices.
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This week's induction was a big one again mr. STEVE HARRIS!
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This week's induction was a big one again mr. STEVE HARRIS!
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I really enjoyed him in The Practice, very intense actor, but he's been given only bit roles since then. Guy deserves a bigger break in the film and tv indus-
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What do you mean, "Wrong Steve Harris"???
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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the MUSICIAN Steve Harris... OK, I was confused there... he's a great banjo player, though, isn't he? :lol:
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Definitely picked a strong musician in Mr. Harris. He's pretty much the heart of Iron Maiden, and if you haven't heard of Iron Maiden, then you're probably not signed up on these here forums.
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Sorry, but if you're on this site and your first thought was some actor called Steve Harris I've never heard of... I nominally dock you TWO, no THREE awesome points! ;)
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Sorry, but if you're on this site and your first thought was some actor called Steve Harris I've never heard of... I nominally dock you TWO, no THREE awesome points! ;)
I'd recommend you checking The Practice out though...it was an awesome show...by no other than mastermind David E Kelley!
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Sorry, but if you're on this site and your first thought was some actor called Steve Harris I've never heard of... I nominally dock you TWO, no THREE awesome points! ;)
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I'd recommend you checking The Practice out though...it was an awesome show...by no other than mastermind David E Kelley!
Indeed! :yes: It had a number of strong seasons before it got formulaic. And of all the characters to make it to the spinoff show, it was pretty much just James Spader, added in the last season, who ran the course of Boston Legal. Tara Wilson was also added in the last season and made the jump, but didn't last the whole of Boston Legal.
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I'm sure The Practice was very good, I don't think it made it to these shores though. It might have been confused with other TV shows with similar titles (Peak Practice springs to mind)
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The Practice was one of the best legal dramas...I think the only thing was that it was bit overly serious all the time...but luckily David E Kelley fixed that with Boston Legal and that's why it became THE best legal drama of all time...well that and Spader and Shatner ofcourse.
Denny Crane also appeared on the last season of The Practice.
I think the first 5 seasons of The Practice was really good...then like zzz said it got too samey and formulatic...until Spader joined and elevated it again...but at that point it wasn't really the same show anymore so the transition to Boston Legal had already started at that point I think...
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So, yeah, Steve Harris of Iron Maiden... :smug:
Guy plays a strong bass guitar, I tell you what...
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This weeks induction was
Roger Waters of Pink Floyd.
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Not a shocker, not at all. He was most of the driving force in that band up until he left and is responsible for two of the most important albums made, Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall. He's a legendary performer whose heart belies his acid lyrics.
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Sorry forgot to add this week's entry..
Mr. Angus Young of AC/DC
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Yep, a bonafide legend!
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Is he that Australian schoolboy guitar whiz kid? :smug:
Yes, Angus Young is a fair dinkum legend!
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This week's addition is the guy from Nirvana...who offed himself...goddamn it...I can't even remember his name right now! :D
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Kurt Cobain!
I wonder if his fame these days is more due to his music or his final act?
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Oh yes..that's him...I guess I could have googled him but couldn't be bothered...
I don't think anyone would even remember that band anymore had he not killed himself...the music was that dreadful and very much product of it's time...kind of like shoulder pads in the 80s.
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I think "Nevermind" was okay, it had some good songs on it, but the rest of their albums were poor. Yes a product of the times.
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Yeah, but the band is still quite popular with people who don't know that the best punk rock isn't popular.
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This week's addition is
IGGY POP
Honestly don't know much about him or his music but he does get mentioned a lot when talking about legendary rockers..
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Not particularly a fan, but he is definitely a character!
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This week's addition is
IGGY POP
Honestly don't know much about him or his music but he does get mentioned a lot when talking about legendary rockers..
He hung out a lot with David Bowie, did a lot of stuff that would eventually become punk rock, did a lot of art rock, as well. Definitely more of an influencer among musicians than a radio hit-maker.
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This week's inductee is the birthday boy of today a certain decent enough guitar player by the name of RITCHIE BLACKMORE and today's featured song of his was a little track called STARGAZER!
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Yeah, he's ok! :D
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This week's inductee is the birthday boy of today a certain decent enough guitar player by the name of RITCHIE BLACKMORE and today's featured song of his was a little track called STARGAZER!
Interesting pick for the feature song, as it showcases Blackmore's slower soloing style. It's a monster tune, no question, but his other most famous solos are typically faster and harder.
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This week's inductee is the birthday boy of today a certain decent enough guitar player by the name of RITCHIE BLACKMORE and today's featured song of his was a little track called STARGAZER!
Interesting pick for the feature song, as it showcases Blackmore's slower soloing style. It's a monster tune, no question, but his other most famous solos are typically faster and harder.
But it is among his more complex ones though...I think. Also that's not a song you hear on the radio too often. ;)
Yesterday's song was a bit faster one though as it was one called Highway Star.
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Oh yes, I'm familiar with that one. :smug:
His studio work is one thing, though... his live performance solos are often levels far above what he does in studio.
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This week's induction was the late guitar master Alexi Laiho of Children Of Bodom.
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Forgot about this
Last week's entry was Joey Ramone of the Ramones
And this week's entry is Dave Grohl.
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OK, cool. Ramones are a band I love and Dave Grohl has done a ton of work, guy's a legend.
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I would probably just have all the Ramones in, rather than just Joey. Was he that much more influential than the others?
And while Grohl isn't my cup of tea, he is very popular, so no surprise there.
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I would probably just have all the Ramones in, rather than just Joey. Was he that much more influential than the others?
And while Grohl isn't my cup of tea, he is very popular, so no surprise there.
I think the induction is for one person at a time, so of the Ramones, I guess he's going with the frontman.
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Yeah it's a person not band for the inductions here...
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This week's induction was Chris Cornell.
Now he's someone I wouldn't have nominated personally. Although I do understand how the Grunge got big and it was a big deal and all but I hate grunge and everything with it.
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This week's induction was Chris Cornell.
Now he's someone I wouldn't have nominated personally. Although I do understand how the Grunge got big and it was a big deal and all but I hate grunge and everything with it.
I'm in agreement with you, Charger. Curt Cobain was much more the face of grunge than Cornell. Cornell was very talented, but I wonder if it's on the same level as many of the other nominees.
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I quite liked Soundgarden, I've got a couple of their albums, but I'm not sure he (or any of them) are worthy of nomination here.
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I wanted to like Soundgarden, but their philosophy of "we play Black Sabbath songs without the parts that suck" made me wonder what parts they found sucky in the Sabbath tunes... and I didn't really hear that in their music, either. I find Mos Generator to be much closer to the 70s Sabbath sound than Soundgarden ever were.
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I wanted to like Soundgarden, but their philosophy of "we play Black Sabbath songs without the parts that suck" made me wonder what parts they found sucky in the Sabbath tunes... and I didn't really hear that in their music, either. I find Mos Generator to be much closer to the 70s Sabbath sound than Soundgarden ever were.
It's more like the opposite.They play Sabbath like songs with only the sucky parts!
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I wanted to like Soundgarden, but their philosophy of "we play Black Sabbath songs without the parts that suck" made me wonder what parts they found sucky in the Sabbath tunes... and I didn't really hear that in their music, either. I find Mos Generator to be much closer to the 70s Sabbath sound than Soundgarden ever were.
It's more like the opposite.They play Sabbath like songs with only the sucky parts!
Pretty much my thoughts... don't make a cocky statement like that unless you can back it up, and then don't make a cocky statement like that anyway. Stay classy and let someone else say that.
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Well all in all modesty ain't something you'd associate with Grunge anyways. They were all kind of the "we are the best and we make the most popular radio play music and screw heavy metal" attitude...and the kids at the time ate it alive.
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... with the dividing line between grunge and metal thin enough, as is. Ah well, they've always got the Emo crowd to connect with.
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This week's induction was PETE TOWNSEND from The Who...
Another worthy addition to the list I'd say. The Who (although not among my favourites but I do love some of their songs) was a ground breaker as well during the late 60s early 70s.
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Good choice.
Yes, The Who were an important part of the early rock scene along with Hendrix, Cream, The Yard Birds etc. Granted they are a little hit or miss in the early days, but some of their later stuff is fantastic. Not much of a fan a Townsend's solo stuff, but that's not why he's on this list.
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Turned 76 today incidentally
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Well done, our Pete!
The guy's a driving force in rock, no question. Pretty much invented the rock opera.
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Agree with the Townsend nomination. Chris Cornell, not so much.
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This week's induction was a gigantic miss sadly...
Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day...
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Yeah, not a great choice.
I think I said in another thread that they've only ever done one song I quite enjoyed... and I can't remember which one that was... which probably speaks volumes!
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This week's induction was a gigantic miss sadly...
Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day...
On the one hand, most of us here think he stinks.
On the other hand, (sigh)... there's a bunch of people who lapped up Green Day because they were told it was punk rock and it was cool.
PROTIP: if a major record company puts a major marketing effort behind a record, it ain't punk rock.
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Yeah I know Green Day is quite popular indeed...but honestly I hate 'em...utterly HATE them.
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Aaand we're back on track as this week's induction was non other than...
TOM ARAYA of Slayer!
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Aaand we're back on track as this week's induction was non other than...
TOM ARAYA of Slayer!
Back on track, I would say. :)
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While Slayer are not my cup of tea, I can't deny the influence they had was massive, and the nomination is well deserved.
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Oh totally forgot about this..
This week's induction was a certain man with a deep voice called PETER STEELE of Type O Negative...a well deserved nod this one again I think.
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Oh totally forgot about this..
This week's induction was a certain man with a deep voice called PETER STEELE of Type O Negative...a well deserved nod this one again I think.
OK, they're on track with this and the previous pick. Good to see.
Do we have any handicapping on whether the next pick will make sense or disappoint? :)
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This week's induction was MICHAEL MONROE from Hanoi Rocks...
I think zzz was expecting this a while ago already...
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This week's induction was MICHAEL MONROE from Hanoi Rocks...
I think zzz was expecting this a while ago already...
That I was expecting. Part because Finland and part because of all the stuff he's done.
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This week's induction is
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
Not a huge fan of his music but he is a legend in his own right too.
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Never cared for Springsteen or his music but you are right he is a legend of Rock to many.
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Never cared for Springsteen or his music but you are right he is a legend of Rock to many.
His work that gets the Wall of Sound treatment with xylophones and everything can leave me unimpressed. But his songwriting is sharp and when the arrangements are pared back to a simpler combo or solo acoustic, I find him at his best.
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I like the odd song, but never really followed him. But, yes, he is a legend.
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This week's induction was...
Jim Morrison from The Doors.
Not a huge fan of The Doors but they have some good songs and I do think they too paved the way for heavy metal in their own way.
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Mr. Mojo rising...
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Yes, some good songs in The Doors back catalogue. I'd say he's worthy.
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Very big Doors fan here and when I was younger Jim Morrison was a major influence on the man I came to be. He is worthy indeed.
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Very big Doors fan here and when I was younger Jim Morrison was a major influence on the man I came to be. He is worthy indeed.
Question: when you woke up this morning, did you get yourself a beer? :)
I've seen his grave at the Lachaise Cemetery in Paris. I also saw a lot of disappointed fans who expected to sit around it and smoke weed. There's now a fence around the grave and most of the visitors are older people with cameras, not the ganja set at all...
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No not this morning but I have gotten up and had beer for breakfast in honor of Morrison. I would really like to see his gravesite. The man was a genius but I had to overcome his dark side and it's influence on my life. I still highly respect him, but I have been done with idols since my early 20s. I now enjoy him for his poetry, songwriting and singing and try to look past the fact that he was a maniac, and quite possibly insane. You just cannot do the amount of psychedelics that he did regularly and stay of sound mind. He actually reminds me of Dionysius from Greek mythology with his madness and seductiveness' and his self destruction.
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The Pere Lachaise Cemetery is a beautiful place to visit, throughout. There are whimsical grave markers that will delight the soul as well as memorials that will bring tears to the eyes. Best weather for visiting would be cool, as there is much walking to do - comfortable shoes a must! Trees offer plenty of shade, so no need to worry about too much sun.
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This week's induction is...
Klaus Maine from Scorpions!
Haven't listened all that much of Scorpions but I do believe they were among the originators of metal as well so I believe it is a deserved one as well.
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I agree, Herr Meine belongs in the HoF.
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Never been a big fan of The Scorpions (probably put off somewhat by that dreadful "Winds of Change" song). But I know I'm in the minority, so I'm not going to argue with his inclusion!
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^ When I went to Moscow, my wife and I did a river tour. As the boat approached Gorkiy Park, guess what we were whistling! :)
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This week's induction is Axl Rose of Guns & Roses...
Honestly I'm not a big fas of GnR...always considered them to be among the most overrated bands in history. Hell they've released what? Like 4 albums in total or something... :D
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I quite like Appetite for Destruction, but there was maybe half an album of good material on the Use Your Illusion albums... never bothered with them after that.
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Questioning GnR's impact... I know they sold a ton of records, but how many bands are trying to sound like them? Or singers trying to imitate Axl?
Ozzy, Gillan, Halford, Dickinson, Dio - these are the guys that everyone tries to emulate, from what it seems. They helped to form the genres of metal. Axl? I don't think that he carved out a niche or blazed a trail. He rode a wave and stood on the shoulders of the giants that went before him.
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That actually sums it up pretty well... Sure Axl has a very unique voice but it's hardly a good voice...it's not like he's a suberb singer or anything.
But I think Appetite came out just in the right time. There was a bit of a hole for that kind of music at the time I suppose...
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But I kinda wonder what other acts got shoved to the side with GnR's dominance of the airwaves and MTV at the time.
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Last week's induction was Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin...kind of understandable eventhough I couldn't care less about zep.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaa? You don't care for guitarists that play stolen blues tunes on multi-necked guitars???? :smug:
All things considered, Page *is* a talented banjo player!
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Been bit behind on this..
So the last 3 additions have been.
James Hetfield from Metallica
Rob Halford from Judas Priest
and some guy I've never even heard of
Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam...did a little research and it was a big grunge (yuck) band from the US....
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I quite liked the first couple of Pearl Jam albums, I couldn't tell you anything about them since.
The other two you mention have done ok for themselves... :rockon:
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Is James Hetfield the banjo player that sings in Metallica? I think I've heard of him.
And Rob Halford... he used to sing with Black Sabbath, right?
Eddie Vedder: he had that song about Jeremy, as I recall.
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This week's induction is some guy with an abnormally large tongue...and I guess he's in a moderately famous band as well...
Gene Simmons!
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Never been a huge fan of Kiss, and I really don't much like Simmons. But he's a legend of sorts so probably deserves his place here.
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Give us a KISS, then!
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Give us a KISS, then!
... where's my pepper spray!
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This week's induction was some guy called Jimi Hendrix...I heard he played guitar or something...
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Yes, he does, he's part of the forum's house band:
:jimi:
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Ah yes...that's how I recognized him!
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He does great work. Is there any budget available to give him a raise?
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He does great work. Is there any budget available to give him a raise?
Huh! There's a budget?
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Maybe we should pay dues to help out the struggling young smilies...
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The smilies should indeed get a bigger pay check...but in this global forum economy that is just not possible..
This week's induction is Blackie Lawless from WASP...
Honestly I've never much liked WASP...bit too radio pop stuff for my liking...but again one can't deny their influence on the early 80s pop metal scene...if you're into that kind of stuff.
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Yeah, I don't really know WASP particularly well, the odd song, but not really a fan.
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One of those, "I know he's famous, just not to me..." guys.
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Blackie Lawless is amazing. One of the great singer songwriters in metal. Not pop metal.
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Blackie Lawless is amazing. One of the great singer songwriters in metal. Not pop metal.
I'm up for discovering something I didn't know before. What would you have me listen to to find this side of the guy that, frankly, I only know from "I'm Blind in Texas."
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/Lastcommand.jpg/220px-Lastcommand.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/db/The_Headless_Children_%28W.A.S.P._album_-_cover_art%29.jpg/220px-The_Headless_Children_%28W.A.S.P._album_-_cover_art%29.jpg)
I would recommend either of these two great albums.
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Going on your taste Z the early stuff might sound a bit dated for discovering Blackie’s work now. Very 80’s production with lots of reverb but still with good riffing, big hooks and catchy harmonised choruses. I’d maybe start with either “The Headless Children” from 89 or 92’s concept album “The Crimson Idol”. Blackie was strongly influenced by The Beatles and The Who which really comes through in his music and always had a great sense for melody and a very emotive voice to go with it. Of his later work you could give “Dominator” a go as well.
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Giving "The Idol" acoustic version a try. I'm quite impressed. This is going to be an area for further research, thanks for starting me on the path. :)
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I'm hep to the jive on W.A.S.P. now... while I don't care for F*** Like a Beast, Blackie Lawless doesn't, either. :) Their output starting with The Headless Children is well worth investigating, not hair pop metal at all.
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This week's induction was Keith Richards from Rolling Stones.
Again a worthy induction eventhough I personally am not a fan.
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Yeah, he's ok. No complaints from me!
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KEEF! He's such a great guy, every story I hear about him paints him out as a real legend of a guy.
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This week's induction is a man with Finnish roots who just turned 60!
The godfather of THRASH metal DAVE MUSTANE himself!
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Good choice!
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AND THE CROWD GOES WILD FOR DAVE MUSTAINE
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This week's addition to the hall was
DAVID COVERDALE (Who by the way turns 70 today.)
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This week's addition to the hall was
DAVID COVERDALE (Who by the way turns 70 today.)
:coverdale:
Dang, he should be 70 by now... time does that to a body, I guess...
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This week's induction was a finnish metal guitarist
ESA HOLOPAINEN from the band Amorphis.
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Checking out some of his work, he's got a solid, methodic style. Cool stuff.
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I'm personally not a fan of Amorphis but they are pretty big in Europe though and quite popular here in Finland too.
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Amorphis has their three early albums that are classics of Death Metal, though I do not like their modern sound.
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Amorphis has their three early albums that are classics of Death Metal, though I do not like their modern sound.
Oh yeah they were death metal at first...I had forgotten about that.
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This week's induction was guitar legend EDDIE VAN HALEN.
Personally I never got into Van Halen as it was bit too commercial and frankly bit childish for me but one cannot deny the sheer talent of Eddie Van Halen...his solos were incredible in terms of technique.
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EVH brought a great energy to rock and roll, always fun to hear him get down and dirty in a solo.
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Finally...this is something I've been waiting for...
This week's induction was....this guy:
:diohorns:
:YES:
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FINALLY
Dio is the Voice of Metal. Prove me wrong, if you can.
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He was bound to appear on here sometime!
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FINALLY
Dio is the Voice of Metal. Prove me wrong, if you can.
Rob Halford? Fully embraced the metal tag and never shied away from it. Still going strong and continues to spread the word of metal at 70 years of age.
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FINALLY
Dio is the Voice of Metal. Prove me wrong, if you can.
Rob Halford? Fully embraced the metal tag and never shied away from it. Still going strong and continues to spread the word of metal at 70 years of age.
He did turn his back totally on metal in the 90s. I think he even went on record to say he was done with everything metal at one point.
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FINALLY
Dio is the Voice of Metal. Prove me wrong, if you can.
Rob Halford? Fully embraced the metal tag and never shied away from it. Still going strong and continues to spread the word of metal at 70 years of age.
He did turn his back totally on metal in the 90s. I think he even went on record to say he was done with everything metal at one point.
Fight was straight up metal and Two or 2wo was classified as Industrial Metal but yeah Rob was going through some shit at the time in his personal life during that mid late 90’s period and publicly coming to terms with his sexuality and became disillusioned with the scene that was at its lowest ebb.
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Good discussion: Halford even covered for Dio when Dio refused to go onstage with Ozzy at the close of the Dehumanizer tour.
Halford certainly had HUGE influence on metal fashion... but Dio sealed in the :rockon: gesture... Given that we have three smileys doing it - :rockon: :abbath: :headbanger: - that's some significant legacy from Dio.
But back to the voice part: are there any others that could stand up to the consistent quality of both Dio and Halford? Both in terms of lifelong output as well as making genre-defining contributions like Heaven and Hell and Breaking the Law.
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After the most deserving induction of them all we have:
Guitar legend DIMEBAG DARRELL ABBOTT from PANTERA.
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Dio to Dimebag? Are they stuck on the letter D?
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Why not.. D is a good letter....the happiest smilies even agree! :D ;D
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Yes, but if they can't get off D, then they won't be able to get to Ian Gillan!
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Well yeah...there is that...but we've got time...even for one more D as in Doro...but I kind of doubt she'll make it here eventhough she most certainly should.
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I agree, she absolutely should.
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Be good to get a list of who’s been inducted so we can pick apart who’s not. Is Lemmy in yet? Ozzy? Gillan & Plant? I would have Bruce in there as well. Has there been more than one inductee from a band? Maybe they are sticking with only 1 per band?
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So far it seems one per band. I'm assuming Lemmy and Ozzy are coming..both have birthdays at the end of the year as quite often inductions have happened on the week of their birthdays.
Although both Blackmore and Coverdale have been inducted but Coverdale more of his work with Whitesnake than Purple though...
I will make a complete list at the end if I can be bothered! :D
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Maybe one per band on the first pass, then come back for others on the next round?
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This won't continue into next year. It'll be something new again in 2022. :)
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Then probably one per band, with bonus points if they were involved in more than one big band. Blackmore had DP and Rainbow. Dio had Rainbow, BS, and solo. Gillan has DP and... ? Yeah, probably not Big Ian if Blackmore is already in there.
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Yeah that's my worry as well...Ian's solo career wasn't as big as Ritchie's or Ronnie's...
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With that in mind, Ozzy could well still get a nod - his solo career has been monster-sized, and it's his involvement that really drives a BS reunion tour.
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Oh I have no doubt Ozzy will be on the list eventhough Tony already was...because of his hugely succesful solo career.
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Have they done any Beatles yet? If not, expect them, at least 2 of them.
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I don't know about Beatles....they are bit too soft for this...so far we've had pretty much 100% hard rock and metal people...only Bowie, Jim Morrison, Roger Waters and Bruce Springsteen have been softer than Hard rock...
Sure Beatles were/are huge but I don't know...Paul McCartney maybe...
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This week's induction was BILLY GIBBONS from ZZ Top!
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I quite liked ZZtop in the 80s, and also the odd song outside of that period.
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ZZ Top were really strong in the 70s and the 90s, enough so for me to forgive them for indulging in 80s excesses.
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^^&
I'm going to suggest we have a difference of opinion here!
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OK, which one's better: Have Mercy / Jesus Just Left Chicago or Sharp Dressed Man?
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Sharp Dressed Man of course (but I'm not so familiar with Have Mercy / Jesus Just Left Chicago)
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Sharp Dressed Man of course (but I'm not so familiar with Have Mercy / Jesus Just Left Chicago)
There ya go. Original recipe ZZ Top with chili con carne on top and rice and refried beans on the side.
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This week's addition was Anthony Kiedis of Red Hot Chili Peppers...
This one deserves a :puke:
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They're more pop than rock, never really liked them.
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Same here, one of those bands that I wanted to like when I only saw their promo artwork and was then WTF? after listening to their stuff. Didn't pan out for me.
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And all their songs sound exactly the same too...same beat and same bass line every time. Stupid band. Can't understand how in the hell they got so popular.
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And all their songs sound exactly the same too...same beat and same bass line every time. Stupid band. Can't understand how in the hell they got so popular.
Heroin use? I dunno.
But without the Chili Peppers, there would be no Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, or Linkin Park...
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So they're responsible for crimes against humanity! C:-)
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Yeah, their popularity far outstripped their actual creative talent as far as I'm concerned.
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I think they also became a band that everyone liked in order to seem hip to the times. Kind of like U2.
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The early Chilli Peppers albums are OK, but anything released past 1987 was pandering garbage. A pop band is a good description of what they became. Oh and I cannot stand the lead singer, such a pompous ass.
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^He has a lot in common with Jimmy Page and Bill Wyman too.
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This week's induction was
NIKKI SIXX of Motley Crue...
I am bit surprised by this choice...Yeah Crue was very influential in the 80s and they became very big, but still...Also everything I've ever read about Sixx paints him like a real asshole too.
I think Mars would have been a better choice...but I guess since Sixx was the main song writer...I don't know...but I just don't like the guy...at all.
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That's an... interesting... choice...
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I'm underwhelmed!
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This is where bringing in the band collectively makes more sense than a particular individual...
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Yeah...there's certainly been a couple of instances where the band would have made a lot more sense than a single individual...but then again there have also been several instances where the single person makes a lot more sense... like Tony Iommi, Ritchie Blackmore, Ronnie James Dio and so on...
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Nikki Sixx was a huge influence on the 80’s LA metal scene. Probably the biggest influence in that era. I wonder about you blokes sometimes ::)
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Perhaps so...but he is still a major dickwad and for that alone I don't think he should get this kind of recognition...and was he really more influential than the other guys in MC? At the time in the 80s that is?
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Sorry to break it to you Charger but a lot if not most rock stars are dickwads and this HOF list is packed with them with Ritchie Blackmore, Dave Mustaine and Blackie Lawless probably topping the dickwad list but that doesn’t prevent me from loving them or have any bearing on how I feel about them.
I don’t let that crap effect me.
But if you’re a dickwad with little to know talent, that’s a different story lol
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True about Blackmore. The man is... complicated... and then he starts to solo and it doesn't matter.
As for Crue... well, we wouldn't have it without Mr. Sixx. And, yes, reading up on his history is like going through a who's who of the LA metal scene.
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Well there are dickwads and then there are dickwads.... Blackmore and Mustaine most certainly can be business dickwads for sure and complicated people as well...
But Nikki Sixx...well...he's a tad more isn't he...but yeah...I don't really give a rats ass about Sixx one way or another to be honest.
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Well if you don’t give a rats arse then can you explain what triggered you about Nikki Sixx all of a sudden? My comment was up there for a few days.
Business dickwads and complicated people is a rather mild way of putting it btw.
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Why can't I just say what I think about someone too? I just made a comment about the douche...nothing more nothing less... don't try to reach some deeper meanings. :D I ain't that deep.
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That’s ok. Just wanted to be sure I didn’t rub you the wrong way with something I posted here all elsewhere on the forum.
Anyhow, I wonder which douche/dickwad/complicated person rockstar Klaus will come up with next :whistling:
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We can all have opions here. Even if they differ a bit...and even if you try to stir some comments out it doesn't mean it'll always work. ;)
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For Blackmore, it's more than his business side. His "practical jokes" amounted to constant torture of people in and around him that he didn't like. At the end of his last tour with DP, he was sabotaging shows. While he and Ian Gillan were able to reconcile and put their differences behind them, Gillan nevertheless refuses to work with him again.
But, I can still enjoy his guitar work... it's complicated.
Ike Turner is harder to take for me. On my show, I just leave him out of announcing who's on the song. When I play Ike & Tina, I announce it as a Tina Turner recording.
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Gillan can be an arrogant douche as well. He doesn’t have a lot of time for people so any wonder those 2 clashed but Ritchie is on a whole other level. Still love the dude though.
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Oh yeah. Ritchie's a real piece of work there is no doubt about it. There's a reason why Ronnie didn't want to work with him and why Ian doesn't want to work with him anymore...nor Doogie White.
Ian however left his arrogance behind a long time ago. He had is bad days in the 80s with the Gillan band but after that he kind of learned his lesson so to speak. What happened with Purple that was pretty much all down to Ritchie being Ritchie...there was a reason why the rest of the band stood firm together and Ritchie went his way.
The other thing that sets Ritchie apart from most others is his total lack of respect towards his fans. That's always been the thing that has put me away. Cutting shows short, yelling to fans not coming back for encores just cause he doesn't "feel" the crowd and so on...Ritchie has always kind of had the "I'm so big of a star that I can do what ever I want" kind of vibe...
This is actually a pretty interesting topic of conversation but hardly suitable for this topic though...
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Well, it goes to show that the Hall of Fame criteria are pretty much limited to overall popularity and influence, recorded output, and general musical skill. Personality, criminal record, and things like that are not considerations, it would seem.
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Looks like I forgot to add couple of names here.
2 Weeks ago the addition was Ville Valo of HIM.
Last week is was Freddie Mercury of Queen
And this week it was one OZZY OSBOURNE
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I'm not familiar with HIM so I don't know if he is worthy or not!
Yeah! The other two should be there! :D
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Well I personally hate HIM but they are the second most succesful band to ever come from Finland so I think it is (from a Finnish point of view) a worthy addition to the list.
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My mind is going down odd rabbit holes this morning, I let the F in Freddie Mercury linger too long and got Fozzie Osbourne out of that.
"I'm going off the rails on this crazy train wocka wocka wocka!"
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Well there is a band called Fozzy out there! :D
This week we're getting another Finnish legend this time TUOMAS HOLOPAINEN of Nightwish. He is a musical genius so this is rather well deserved and expected induction.
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I have almost all of the Nightwish discography - just a wonderful band.
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Yeah...I really like them as well. Sure their last two albums have been a far cry from the ones that came before but I still think Imaginaerum is the best symphonic metal album ever made.
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THIS WEEK'S INDUCTION is some guy from Stoke-on-Trent called LEMMY KILMISTER!!!
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Lemmy? Lemmy? The name rings a bell... oh yes only the greatest Rock n Roller there ever was!
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THIS WEEK'S INDUCTION is some guy from Stoke-on-Trent called LEMMY KILMISTER!!!
Didn't he play bass with Hawkwind or something like that? :smug:
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THIS WEEK'S INDUCTION is some guy from Stoke-on-Trent called LEMMY KILMISTER!!!
Didn't he play bass with Hawkwind or something like that? :smug:
Nah! It's the guy who used to roadie for Jimi Hendrix!
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THIS WEEK'S INDUCTION is some guy from Stoke-on-Trent called LEMMY KILMISTER!!!
Didn't he play bass with Hawkwind or something like that? :smug:
Nah! It's the guy who used to roadie for Jimi Hendrix!
Could be, but I can't find footage of that. Did find a clip of him playing with Hawkwind, so that's our man:
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Oh yeah, he also was part of The Damned for a while, so that's two very important bands Lemmy was with!
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Ok I'll accept that... although to be fair I don't think he was ever an official member of The Damned but did guest on a couple of songs. They did have a revolving door of bassists for a while so he may well have stepped in on occasions!
Yes 3 (not 2) very important bands to me, The Damned and Motorhead are in my top 10 and Hawkwind are close to my top 10 (possibly in it depending on the day!)
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Lemmy is one of those true rock gods...a pure legend.
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Lemmy was in Motorhead? That I did not know... :smug: