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ROCK AND ROLL! => All Them Other Guys => Topic started by: Billy Underdog on March 19, 2018, 04:52:10 PM
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Interesting... and quite pleasant wilderness. This is why I enjoy watching Norwegian train videos.
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Interesting... and quite pleasant wilderness. This is why I enjoy watching Norwegian train videos.
Nothing beats Norwegian slow TV... :drama::rockon:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xisVS_DKpJg
:death: :drummer: :guitar: :headbanger: :jimi: :metal1: :yes: :rhythm: :abbath: :rockon: :banana: :excited: :zomg: :batdance: :partay: :wootwoot:
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I'm glad they put Norway in parentheses. Otherwise I might have confused it with Bergen, Nebraska to Oslo, Panama.
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I'm glad they put Norway in parentheses. Otherwise I might have confused it with Bergen, Nebraska to Oslo, Panama.
I see what you did there.
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Immortal are Back !
(http://assets.blabbermouth.net/media/immortalbandmay2018_638.jpg)
killer tune. :abbath:
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New album of Immortal "Northern Chaos Gods"
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the new project of Tom Gabriel Warrior is born : Niryth .
Tom Gabriel Warrior : Vocals/Bass
Mia Wallace : Bass
Vanja Slajh : Bass
Pidi Leuenberger - Drums
so 3 bass guitars !!
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i6o9VLaO5dg/W0aqlBgBjdI/AAAAAAAABR8/pOh5Po9TrMAaaAuW3iIL56e6IDBWFHQhQCLcBGAs/s640/2018%2BMay%2B11.jpg)
Mia
(https://theheadbangingmoose.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/vanja04.jpg)
Vanja
very curious and promising.
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^^^ Damn, that sounds interesting. Keep us updated. :abbath:
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Probably will be totally different from Shrum. That was a facet of the subgenre I was keen on exploring some years ago, but the two bass experiment didn't last too long.
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^^^ I tend to think that it will be an ultra-doom black project . A demo will be recorded between now and this fall and may lead to an album or even concerts.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fCRLxhiGg_E/W2JE1rSLgkI/AAAAAAAABUM/I58yY6R3WYcqeIPLo5lCI1yZqmAmSTcBwCLcBGAs/s640/Niryth_Logo.jpg)
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awesome !
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first official pic of Niryth band on their FB page
(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43759537_276697456296494_5275767685571936256_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&oh=581bccebf507932d5c77aebcd3165dd8&oe=5C50826C)
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^Hold on there! That's not healthy black metal! She's smoking!
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I don’t know if this is considered healthy Black Metal or not and I don’t think there is such a thing, but here it goes.
I just bought the Mayhem Dawn of the Blackhearts bootleg, the one with Dead’s suicide photo on the cover, does anyone know if this is a good example of Mayhem’s music?
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Ive been doing some Black Metal studying Immortal use to be Old Funeral Kristian Virkenes old band.
Are there any Black Metal aficionados or experts here who would like to discuss this genre with me?
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:abbath: As I stated in my PM to you I am far from an expert but I do know some stuff.
I know that Darkthrone is the greatest of all the Norwegian bands :smug:
Billy knew A LOT about Black Metal, he would have had something great to say and contribute.
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:abbath: As I stated in my PM to you I am far from an expert but I do know some stuff.
I know that Darkthrone is the greatest of all the Norwegian bands :smug:
Billy knew A LOT about Black Metal, he would have had something great to say and contribute.
How about the bootleg I just bought, Mayhem Dawn Of The Blackhearts? Is that any good?
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I don’t know if this is considered healthy Black Metal or not and I don’t think there is such a thing, but here it goes.
I just bought the Mayhem Dawn of the Blackhearts bootleg, the one with Dead’s suicide photo on the cover, does anyone know if this is a good example of Mayhem’s music?
I like Mayhem but I prefer Darkthrone and Immortal along with the first 2 Emperor albums. I hate the cover of this bootleg because of the fact that Euronymous took the picture after the very real suicide of Dead. Not very classy if you ask me.
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:abbath: As I stated in my PM to you I am far from an expert but I do know some stuff.
I know that Darkthrone is the greatest of all the Norwegian bands :smug:
Billy knew A LOT about Black Metal, he would have had something great to say and contribute.
How about the bootleg I just bought, Mayhem Dawn Of The Blackhearts? Is that any good?
It is OK but I am only passingly familiar with it to be honest. I do have it on one of my older computers but have not listened to it in years.
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I don’t know if this is considered healthy Black Metal or not and I don’t think there is such a thing, but here it goes.
I just bought the Mayhem Dawn of the Blackhearts bootleg, the one with Dead’s suicide photo on the cover, does anyone know if this is a good example of Mayhem’s music?
I like Mayhem but I prefer Darkthrone and Immortal along with the first 2 Emperor albums. I hate the cover of this bootleg because of the fact that Euronymous took the picture after the very real suicide of Dead. Not very classy if you ask me.
The cover is sick if you ask me, but all the cds I searched had it so I had no choice, I wish I could ask Billy, I’m sure he knew a lot, may he be resting in peace.
Who started Black Metal? Many say it was Venom, but many docs I’ve seen consider them a joke. So was it Euronymous who invented Black Metal?
Darkthrone is Fenriz’s band right?
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For my money Celtic Frost were the first Black Metal band. Along with Venom and Bathory these three bands would set the ball rolling for the genre.
Yes Darkthrone is Fenriz's band. The absolute pinnacle of Black Metal if you ask me.
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For my money Celtic Frost were the first Black Metal band. Along with Venom and Bathory these three bands would set the ball rolling for the genre.
Yes Darkthrone is Fenriz's band. The absolute pinnacle of Black Metal if you ask me.
This is what I’ve heard, but when you watch the interviews of the second wave of Black Metal guys they say Venom weren’t Black Metal, and many cite Euronymous has the guy who got the real Black Metal sound down.
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For my money Celtic Frost were the first Black Metal band. Along with Venom and Bathory these three bands would set the ball rolling for the genre.
Yes Darkthrone is Fenriz's band. The absolute pinnacle of Black Metal if you ask me.
This is what I’ve heard, but when you watch the interviews of the second wave of Black Metal guys they say Venom weren’t Black Metal, and many sight Euronymous has the guy who got the real Black Metal sound down.
Real Black Metal ?!?
Let all these bands be imaginative and propose another name of this music genre.
Venom is and will remain the band that created Black Metal. It's as simple as the title of their second album. Welcome to Hell is even more raw and primary. The album is released in 81.
Hellhammer then Celtic Frost came second , followed by Bathory who offers something faster than Venom on the first 4 albums then changes and lays the foundation for Vicking Metal from Hammerheart.
Mercyful Fate has also contributed to the emergence of Black Metal although their music is clearly heavy as the first 2 albums of Slayer. If Bathory played so fast, it was Slayer 's influence.
After and only after, Norway knows a wave of new generation called Black Metal again, very inspired by 3 pioneers pre-cited.
And here I would like to stand up against this false idea, this lie as to the name of this Scandinavian wave. It's simply a patronymic theft. The name Black Metal is nowadays very overused with a whole lot of more or less inspired subgenres.
I understand this desire to put this name so incredibly Evil on a form of extreme music but this form of Black Metal is a derivative of what Venom has generated. Once again, Venom is and will remain first. So Venom plays Black Metal.
All the rest is revionnism.
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Thanks for chiming in TYR, I appreciate your input, I’m just learning about Black Metal.
I’m just going by what I’m watching in documentaries, I agree with you on the above, but I watched on a documentary that says Euronymous invented the black Metal riff, I happen to like Venom, and the funny thing is that Varg who criticizes Venom and makes fun of them, use to wear their shirts back in the day.
Maybe the Mayhem guys just wanted all the credit, I don’t know?
TYR May I ask you your opinion on Mayhem’s Dawn Of The Blackhearts, what do you think of it?
If you’d be so kind to answer my question I’d appreciate it greatly, and thank you for taking the time to do so.
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Well, to be honest, I don't like Mayhem. All this wave came from Norway essentially didn't attract me from their appearance in the early 90s. I saw a lot of deja vu. I didn't understand this desire to propose something so badly produced. If Hellhammer had had the opportunity to access a studio with more resources in 1984, they would have done so without a doubt. The fact that the boss of Noise Records himself hated the Swiss combo didn't help them in this way.
I started to appreciate Darkthrone and Immortal much later. The last Immortal is phenomenal.
Speaking of Mayhem, I listen again to "De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas" as I write these words: Nothing to do, the Attila's vocals are not my thing. . Musically it's interesting, I hear a mix of Morbid Tales, the first Bathory and Seven Churches of Possessed.
Once again, the first listen of this album and compared to what was doing in this year (1994) is not shocking. Nothing to do with the shock of first listening to Welcome To Hell or Apocalyptic Raids.
In 1988, Entombed had impressed me a lot more with Left Hand Path for example.
Curiously and although Darkthrone has an even more raw sound, I prefer them clearly. Definitely, Attila's voice is just unbearable.
I must also say that I really like the first 4 albums of Cradle of Filth. I know, Dani has a voice, how to say, more than special.
Ditto for the first albums of Dimmu Borgir 'til Death Cult Armageddon.
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Elves, I think this video of Fenriz (Darkthrone) teaching the origins of Black Metal is very instructive :
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Yeah, I was around in the 80s and heard Venom first of all the Black Metal bands. They were Black Metal. After that, Celtic Frost and Mercyful Fate and Slayer. Black Metal, all of them.
I didn't get into Black Metal, but I was there to not get into it when it first started. :smug:
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Elves, I think this video of Fenriz (Darkthrone) teaching the origins of Black Metal is very instructive :
Thanks for your input TYR, greatly appreciated and thank you for the video, very informative Fenriz knows his stuff, Slayer was respected by the Black Metal guys, that’s cool.
I like Venom, Mercyful Fate and soon when I get my Mayhem bootleg I’ll let you guys on here know how I like them, will also be checking out Bathory and Darkthrone as per your recommendations TYR, thank you very much. :metal1: :headbanger: :guitar:
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Well eventhough techincally Slayer isn't black metal I can imagine that most black metal bands would consider Slayer something of an influence...they played fast and their lyrics were quite often quite satanicly inclined.
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^ My wife and youngest daughter just found the doll re-painting videos on YouTube. I see it's also a thing among death metal ladies, as well.
Interesting intersection, to say the least.
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Cool Jack, funny.
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What Bathory and Darkthrone albums do you guys recommend I get?
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For my money Celtic Frost were the first Black Metal band. Along with Venom and Bathory these three bands would set the ball rolling for the genre.
Yes Darkthrone is Fenriz's band. The absolute pinnacle of Black Metal if you ask me.
This is what I’ve heard, but when you watch the interviews of the second wave of Black Metal guys they say Venom weren’t Black Metal, and many sight Euronymous has the guy who got the real Black Metal sound down.
Real Black Metal ?!?
Let all these bands be imaginative and propose another name of this music genre.
Venom is and will remain the band that created Black Metal. It's as simple as the title of their second album. Welcome to Hell is even more raw and primary. The album is released in 81.
Hellhammer then Celtic Frost came second , followed by Bathory who offers something faster than Venom on the first 4 albums then changes and lays the foundation for Vicking Metal from Hammerheart.
Mercyful Fate has also contributed to the emergence of Black Metal although their music is clearly heavy as the first 2 albums of Slayer. If Bathory played so fast, it was Slayer 's influence.
After and only after, Norway knows a wave of new generation called Black Metal again, very inspired by 3 pioneers pre-cited.
And here I would like to stand up against this false idea, this lie as to the name of this Scandinavian wave. It's simply a patronymic theft. The name Black Metal is nowadays very overused with a whole lot of more or less inspired subgenres.
I understand this desire to put this name so incredibly Evil on a form of extreme music but this form of Black Metal is a derivative of what Venom has generated. Once again, Venom is and will remain first. So Venom plays Black Metal.
All the rest is revionnism.
Excellent points my friend. I know that Venom are the birthers of Black Metal, but I still always think of Celtic Frost when I think of what it means to be Black Metal.
This image automatically comes to mind. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8e/Morbid_Tales_-_Celtic_Frost.jpg/220px-Morbid_Tales_-_Celtic_Frost.jpg)
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What Bathory and Darkthrone albums do you guys recommend I get?
Every single Darkthrone album has something great to offer.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d3/Darkthrone_-_A_Blaze_in_the_Northern_Sky.jpg/220px-Darkthrone_-_A_Blaze_in_the_Northern_Sky.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/db/Darkthrone_-_Under_a_Funeral_Moon.jpg/220px-Darkthrone_-_Under_a_Funeral_Moon.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6e/Darkthrone_-_Transilvanian_Hunger.jpg/220px-Darkthrone_-_Transilvanian_Hunger.jpg)
These three are their absolute classics.
This one however is my favorite album by them.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/85/Darkthrone_-_Dark_Thrones_and_Black_Flags.jpg/220px-Darkthrone_-_Dark_Thrones_and_Black_Flags.jpg)
Incorporated traits of punk and traditional heavy metal on this one.
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Thank you Thel, I will check them out on YouTube first.
Do you have any recommendations for Bathory?
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Thank you Thel, I will check them out on YouTube first.
Do you have any recommendations for Bathory?
No problem, I think you will find Darkthrone a one of a kind experience.
Not all that of a fan of Bathory, I would defer to Tyr66 in this area.
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Thank you Thel, I will check them out on YouTube first.
Do you have any recommendations for Bathory?
No problem, I think you will find Darkthrone a one of a kind experience.
Not all that of a fan of Bathory, I would defer to Tyr66 in this area.
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Thanks again my friend.
@ Tyr66, what Bathory album do you recommend for starters?
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Thank you Thel, I will check them out on YouTube first.
Do you have any recommendations for Bathory?
No problem, I think you will find Darkthrone a one of a kind experience.
Not all that of a fan of Bathory, I would defer to Tyr66 in this area.
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Thanks again my friend.
@ Tyr66, what Bathory album do you recommend for starters?
Excellent advise Thel ' ! :abbath:
Elves, First, I can advise you obviously the first album in a pure Black Metal style and Under The Sign of The Black Mark followed by the masterpiece Blood Fire Death.
If you have the time, I strongly advise you to listen to the 2 tracks present on the compilation Scandinavian Metal Attack (1984), Bathory did not have the sound and speed of the first album yet but the titles have become legendary and cult.
Jonas Åkerlund, future director of Lords Of Chaos, played drums on these tracks.
Then the style of Quorthon evolves to a new genre, a more slow , epic and arranged style very inspired by the middle-aged Viking world full of legends and pagan Gods, filiation father to son, respect for Nature. Hammerheart is excellent, Twilight of the Gods a must. Do not miss the masterpiece in two acts: Nordland I and II.
Enjoy !! :abbath: :guitar:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/Quorthon_breathing_fire_live.jpg)
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Thank you Thel, I will check them out on YouTube first.
Do you have any recommendations for Bathory?
No problem, I think you will find Darkthrone a one of a kind experience.
Not all that of a fan of Bathory, I would defer to Tyr66 in this area.
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Thanks again my friend.
@ Tyr66, what Bathory album do you recommend for starters?
Excellent advise Thel ' ! :abbath:
Elves, First, I can advise you obviously the first album in a pure Black Metal style and Under The Sign of The Black Mark followed by the masterpiece Blood Fire Death.
If you have the time, I strongly advise you to listen to the 2 tracks present on the compilation Scandinavian Metal Attack (1984), Bathory did not have the sound and speed of the first album yet but the titles have become legendary and cult.
Jonas Åkerlund, future director of Lords Of Chaos, played drums on these tracks.
Then the style of Quorthon evolves to a new genre, a more slow , epic and arranged style very inspired by the middle-aged Viking world full of legends and pagan Gods, filiation father to son, respect for Nature. Hammerheart is excellent, Twilight of the Gods a must. Do not miss the masterpiece in two acts: Nordland I and II.
Enjoy !! :abbath: :guitar:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/Quorthon_breathing_fire_live.jpg)
Thank you for the advise and recommendations Tyr66, I very much appreciate it and will definitely check them out. :abbath:
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Killer !! :abbath:
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Thank you Thel and Tyr66, I must admit that I am not a fan of Black Metal, Bathory and Venom are as far as I go.
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Thank you Thel and Tyr66, I must admit that I am not a fan of Black Metal, Bathory and Venom are as far as I go.
you're welcome, Elves ! 8)
At least you tried. Black Metal is a really special style. :rockon:
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new killer track from the Forthcoming Darkthrone's album "Old Star".
dedicated to Billy :abbath: :rockon: