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ROCK AND ROLL! => All Them Other Guys => Topic started by: Zzzptm on March 07, 2018, 06:47:03 PM
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So, yeah. The Beatles. Can you dig it, man?
First question is, were they better with facial hair or without? My vote is with.
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To phrase it in other words: Beatles in black & white or in colours.
Most def. colours.
If Sabbath are subjectively the best band in the world, Beatles are objectively the best.
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I gotta say I never got into the Beatles...I have always found them to be among the most overrated bands in history.
That being said, one cannot deny that they had a lot to do with the beginning of commercial rock and even hard rock in a way as a lot of hard rock artists say that Beatles were their inspiration.
But I personally though don't find anything of interest in them. My mom though is a fan.
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I had my Beatles phase, started a Beatles tribute band in college in fact. I don't listen to them much anymore, kind of overloaded myself ( don't listen to Sabbath much anymore either!) But yeah, thems the guys
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Myself, the compositions George Harrison wrote on Revolver and afterward are the ones that I keep coming back to the most. "Something" is one of my absolutely favorite songs, ever.
Charger's comment about their commercialism is interesting in that I think it was the fact that they were so popular, they couldn't do *anything* without it being commercially successful. Except for Magical History Tour. That was a real train wreck... but their albums got to be popular just because they were popular.
When Paul wrote songs that John described as "music for the grannies", I don't think that he was selling out or going commercial. He was exploring a connection between rock and English Music Hall tunes, to see if that would work out, to make songs more dramatic. So does that make him pretentious? Perhaps, although I think he delivered on his vision with stuff like "Elanor Rigby" and "Martha, My Dear".
My mom, on the other hand, absolutely hates The Beatles. She can tolerate Yellow Submarine because it's a kid's movie and I loved it as a kid. But all The Beatles records in my house were my dad's.
The Cat Stevens records, on the other hand, were my mom's... but, then again, Cat Stevens never recorded "Helter Skelter."
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Harrisons tunes are always the best. Which the first solo-albums show too, which is alot of stuf that "didn't make it" in Beatles.
Brainwashed is the greatest musical testament ever made.
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That was his last album, right? You know, I never gave that a listen, at least not yet. Time to correct that.
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Count me in as a Beatles fan. However, I always like The Doors better than Beatles. :death:
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Count me in as a Beatles fan. However, I always like The Doors better than Beatles. :death:
I'm curious as to what makes you prefer The Doors.
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John Lennon wrote my favorite Beatles tunes. Tomorrow Never Knows, Dear Prudence, I am the Walrus, I'm only Sleeping, Norwegian Wood, main part of Day in the Life, you've got to hide your love away are a few that come to mind
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Count me in as a Beatles fan. However, I always like The Doors better than Beatles. :death:
I'm curious as to what makes you prefer The Doors.
Jim Morrison. The Death keyboards. They didn't have a long enough career to make a bad album. They didn't have a pop/ Beatlemania phase. The infamous concerts of The Doors, Beatles didnt even tour when they were making music i liked. The band is mystical, mysterious and exciting especially during hippy flower power 60's. Man I love The Beatles, but I can do without their any of their stuff pre Help! Album. Just my 2 cents.
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That was his last album, right? You know, I never gave that a listen, at least not yet. Time to correct that.
Yup. Do yourself that favour. Was working on it the last years, finished by Dhani Harrison and Jeff Lynne after his wishes.
John Lennon wrote my favorite Beatles tunes. Tomorrow Never Knows, Dear Prudence, I am the Walrus, I'm only Sleeping, Norwegian Wood, main part of Day in the Life, you've got to hide your love away are a few that come to mind
All great tunes too. Beatles were lucky to have three brilliant songwriters. And Ringo. :)
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I like the Beatles from about 1966 onwards. I not a fan of their early stuff. I would say that even their later output is patchy, for instance I only really like about half of Sgt Peppers... but some of that "half" is amazing.
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I like the Beatles from about 1966 onwards. I not a fan of their early stuff. I would say that even their later output is patchy, for instance I only really like about half of Sgt Peppers... but some of that "half" is amazing.
Definitely for me, the later the album, the better I like the album. Once they got away from the screaming girls in the crowds, they really put down some excellent tunes. True, I also will pick winners and losers on the albums. I think about 3 sides' worth of songs from The White Album can be kept, don't need all of Paul's songs on Sgt. Pepper, can live without The Sun King on Abbey Road, and Let It Be really deserves to be done without Phil Spector's production on painfully over-done "The Long and Winding Road".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4oEX4likmc
Go to 8:56 for a much better, stripped-down version of the song. I find it much more tender done this way.
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The only true Let It Be is Let It Be... Naked. And not one tune could be left out, esp. Abbey Road. Ok, maybe some from White Album then... Sun King is the perfect start for the "side b epic".
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Sun King is the perfect start for the "side b epic".
That song put the indulgent in "self-indulgent". Also the ending for "I Want You" goes. on. too. long. Some editing there would have been nice... or a cool solo on top of the droning.
In the side b epic, I really wanted the jams to go longer before "The End", they just cut out too soon. Maybe if they had junked "Sun King", they would have had more time for Harrison laying down the licks.
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My best argument is i disagree. Abbey Road is perfect the way it is. The build-up of She's So Heavy is superb.
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My best argument is i disagree. Abbey Road is perfect the way it is. The build-up of She's So Heavy is superb.
Lol, now you're doing this to me:
:buhbye:
Point taken, and, honestly, I love that album so much, I just put up with the parts that I want to "fix". I suppose "Here Comes the Sun" is so awesome, I can forgive just about anything within 5 songs of it. :)
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I suppose "Here Comes the Sun" is so awesome, I can forgive just about anything within 5 songs of it. :)
Getting closer to the right time of year for that one too.
Written in Eric Claptons garden on an ukulele, not long before Clapton got together with Patty Boyd. Something in the way she moves, indeed... :P
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Wow, that's an interesting bit about the ukelele. I had to go find a cover of HCTS on ukelele...
Found it, not half bad at all. The "Badge" chord progression sounds just fine, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q4euBbHF_8
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If memory serves right, George and Paul plays it on ukes in the extras for the Anthology series. Ofcourse not to be found on 'tube...
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Here's a trashing of Abbey Road from Rolling Stone... I'm really liking the bad review site!
The Beatles
Abbey Road (1969)
Rating: Unfavorable
"What's it like? Well, I don't much like it, but then I have a thing about the Beatles. Since Revolver I've been buying their albums, playing them a couple of times, and then forgetting about them. The last album was, admittedly, exciting in places, but I still don't play it much because there's still too much stuff on it that should have been edited...Of course, the Beatles are still the Beatles, but it does tread a rather tenuous line between boredom, Beatledom, and bubblegum...
...Side two is a disaster...The slump begins with 'Because', which is a rather nothing song...the biggest bomb on the album is 'Sun King', which overflows with sixth and ninth chords and finally degenerates into a Muzak-sounding thing with Italian lyrics. It is probably the worst thing the Beatles have done since they changed drummers. This leads into the 'Suite' which finishes up the side. There are six little songs, each slightly under two minutes long, all of which are so heavily overproduced that they are hard to listen to...
...It is tempting to think that the Beatles are saying with this album that the only alternative to 'getting back' for them is producing more garbage on this order, and that they have priced it so outrageously so that fewer people would buy it. But if that's so, then why bother to release it at all? They must realize that any album they choose to release is going to get a gold record just because so many people love, respect and trust the Beatles. They've been shucking us a lot recently, and it's a shame because they don't have to. Surely they must have enough talent and intelligence to do better than this. Or do they? Tune in next time and find out." (Ed Ward, 11/15/69 Review)
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^^^ :doh: :doh: :doh:
He even begins with saying "i don't like the Beatles since they started experimenting"... Talk about biased review. Gonzo journalism at it's best. And worst...
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Nice little video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYvkICbTZIQ
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Proto-Metal guitar riff played on a SG :rockon:
And, damn, what an acid face Lennon's got there... ;D
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Def. one of my favorite Beatles tunes. Riff comes out of nowhere and takes you for a great ride.
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When you think about it, The Beatles had a lot of songs that were too rock for country back then, but are now too country for rock... and even too country for country!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTsB-llTzyc
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Beatles White Album 50th anniversary is amazing. The Esher demos are worth the price!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71owuo5tnEk&list=RD71owuo5tnEk&start_radio=1
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Wow, that's amazing, all stripped back like that.
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yes there is a full release of this demo, its amazing!
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Still can't get over the quality... wow...