Rainbow

[Zzzptm]

^^ Don't worry, Elves, I'm the Deep Purple #1 Fan here... or maybe 2 or 3, certainly top 20...

I also never got into Blackmore's Night...

As for Dio, I keep coming back to Stargazer/Light in the Black and Gates of Babylon as his best vocal expressions. Those songs simply swirl around my ears, and Blackmore's guitar (and Cozy's drumming) have a lot to do with it. I'm sad that Dio couldn't work with Cozy after Rainbow, as I understand they would have possibly been together on another Sabbath album with Tony and Geezer.

[AnnoMundi]

I always personally thought Ronnie peaked vocally during Dehumanizer and Strange Highways.


Ritchie is/was one of the most versatile guitar players ever that's for sure.

Blackmore's Night has got some great tracks and Ritchie's playing at times is absolutely out of this world.

I’ll have to check out Blackmore’s Night, I have heard a couple of songs years ago, not enough to base a thoughtful opinion on it.

[AnnoMundi]

^^ Don't worry, Elves, I'm the Deep Purple #1 Fan here... or maybe 2 or 3, certainly top 20...

I also never got into Blackmore's Night...

As for Dio, I keep coming back to Stargazer/Light in the Black and Gates of Babylon as his best vocal expressions. Those songs simply swirl around my ears, and Blackmore's guitar (and Cozy's drumming) have a lot to do with it. I'm sad that Dio couldn't work with Cozy after Rainbow, as I understand they would have possibly been together on another Sabbath album with Tony and Geezer.

I like Deep Purple too, but not as much as Rainbow.

I think that album was suppose to be Dehumanizer wasn’t it? But Cozy didn’t get along with Ronnie, so they went with Vinny, which in a way I’m glad they did because that’s the classic Dio/Sabbath lineup.

Z I feel the same as you regarding those songs and how they make me feel.

[Charger]

I always personally thought Ronnie peaked vocally during Dehumanizer and Strange Highways.


Ritchie is/was one of the most versatile guitar players ever that's for sure.

Blackmore's Night has got some great tracks and Ritchie's playing at times is absolutely out of this world.

I’ll have to check out Blackmore’s Night, I have heard a couple of songs years ago, not enough to base a thoughtful opinion on it.

Ghost Of A Rose and Secret Voyage are both great albums. I'd start with those. They both got some nice rockier tunes as well and Locked Within The Crystal Ball is epical.

[AnnoMundi]

I always personally thought Ronnie peaked vocally during Dehumanizer and Strange Highways.


Ritchie is/was one of the most versatile guitar players ever that's for sure.

Blackmore's Night has got some great tracks and Ritchie's playing at times is absolutely out of this world.

I’ll have to check out Blackmore’s Night, I have heard a couple of songs years ago, not enough to base a thoughtful opinion on it.

Ghost Of A Rose and Secret Voyage are both great albums. I'd start with those. They both got some nice rockier tunes as well and Locked Within The Crystal Ball is epical.

Thanks Charger I’ll check them out, and let you know what I think.

[Scott]

I think that album was suppose to be Dehumanizer wasn’t it? But Cozy didn’t get along with Ronnie, so they went with Vinny, which in a way I’m glad they did because that’s the classic Dio/Sabbath lineup.

Yep. Cozy was part of the initial sessions for 'Dehumanizer', before his "horseriding accident". I put that in quotation marks as, while it might have been what happened, there were indeed always rumours that Cozy and Ronnie couldn't see eye to eye during those sessions. A bunch of demos/rehearsals do exist with the Iommi/Butler/Dio/Powell/Nicholls lineup though.

[AnnoMundi]

I think that album was suppose to be Dehumanizer wasn’t it? But Cozy didn’t get along with Ronnie, so they went with Vinny, which in a way I’m glad they did because that’s the classic Dio/Sabbath lineup.

Yep. Cozy was part of the initial sessions for 'Dehumanizer', before his "horseriding accident". I put that in quotation marks as, while it might have been what happened, there were indeed always rumours that Cozy and Ronnie couldn't see eye to eye during those sessions. A bunch of demos/rehearsals do exist with the Iommi/Butler/Dio/Powell/Nicholls lineup though.

I heard of the Dehumanizer Demos, yeah Ronnie and Cozy didn't get along, Cozy always said Ronnie had a big ego.

[Zzzptm]

The fallout between Cozy and Dio started when Dio left Rainbow. He wanted Cozy to come along and be part of his group, but Cozy wanted to stick around with Blackmore for another Rainbow album and tour. There may have been promises made/broken/misunderstood in the course of that back-and-forth, and it left Dio with the conviction that he'd never work with Cozy again.

[AnnoMundi]

The fallout between Cozy and Dio started when Dio left Rainbow. He wanted Cozy to come along and be part of his group, but Cozy wanted to stick around with Blackmore for another Rainbow album and tour. There may have been promises made/broken/misunderstood in the course of that back-and-forth, and it left Dio with the conviction that he'd never work with Cozy again.

I always heard it was Ronnie’s big ego that Cozy couldn’t stand and was the reason he didn’t like Ronnie.

Ronnie didn’t have a band when he left Rainbow, it’s why he got hired for Sabbath.

[Zzzptm]

Found the quote from Cozy Powell about his beef with RJD:

"Ronnie James Dio had come back in, and he didn't want me, "Cozy told Record Collector. "He'd been kicked out of Rainbow and he asked me to play on his solo album to spite Ritchie, but I turned him down. He's hated my guts ever since." - Cozy Powell

[AnnoMundi]

Found the quote from Cozy Powell about his beef with RJD:

"Ronnie James Dio had come back in, and he didn't want me, "Cozy told Record Collector. "He'd been kicked out of Rainbow and he asked me to play on his solo album to spite Ritchie, but I turned him down. He's hated my guts ever since." - Cozy Powell

Never heard that Z, thanks for sharing that, learn something new all the time.

Funny every time I see or saw Ronnie doing interviews, he never came across to me as an egomaniac, always composed himself well and well spoken and carried himself like a gentleman.

[Zzzptm]

Most musicians are taught manners and politeness when dealing with the press. They do SO MANY interviews in the course of a tour, that they just get good at being composed and at having answers for just about every question.

Not that they're above a bit of pot-stirring or throwing shade. They just always try to be well spoken when responding to those accusations.

[Charger]

Yeah Cozy and Ronnie had a fallout after Ronnie was let go from Rainbow...a shame really.

Ronnie has never come off to me as an egotistical fellow either....in fact quite the opposite. He was always quite humble when it came to his fans.

Ofcourse it is impossible for us to know for sure how things were with certain other musicians. But one thing I can say with certainty the problem was never JUST with Ronnie though.

[Jack the Stripper]

You wouldn't meet a muscican that was more respectful and thankful to his fans than Ronnie, but in terms of working for or with... that's a whole another story.

[Zzzptm]

You wouldn't meet a muscican that was more respectful and thankful to his fans than Ronnie, but in terms of working for or with... that's a whole another story.

Was he worse than Ian Gillan when Gillan disbanded his group to join Black Sabbath?

Basically, they were coming in the front door of the management office to ask about back payments and Gillan was stepping out the back door after having dissolved the band and basically legally screwing them on back pay. That's why John McCoy has been so energetic with releasing old Gillan band material, so that the band can at least collect on royalties.