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Billy Underdog

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Re: Why?
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2018, 11:00:02 AM »
Quote from: Sabbabbath on March 17, 2018, 10:49:40 AM
Actually, some Nazi criminals, though of course extremely old, are still alive:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Most_Wanted_Nazi_War_Criminals_according_to_the_Simon_Wiesenthal_Center

I know, as you see from my post above where i said
Quote from: Billy Underdog on March 17, 2018, 08:44:25 AM
There were Nazis who were part of the Nazi party who kept the ideology, some (though very few) still alive today.

But what you're quoting there was ofcourse a joke on behalf of the many conspiracy theories on the subject. I think you deep down understand that...

And, yes, many Nazis did, with the aid of the Vatican state, escape to South America.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2018, 11:06:31 AM »
Quote from: Billy Underdog on March 17, 2018, 11:00:02 AM
I know, as you see from my post above

Sorry, I had overlooked that part.

Quote from: Billy Underdog on March 17, 2018, 11:00:02 AM
But what you're quoting there was ofcourse a joke on behalf of the many conspiracy theories on the subject. I think you deep down understand that...

Of course I understood that, deep down as well as in front and above.:D My comment was not meant as criticism of your comment, I just wanted to add the "some old Nazis are still alive" point which I (mistakenly) thought was missing so far. That's one of the problems with posting, it's much harder to convey the complete message (both in terms of content and moral and emotional coloration) than face-to-face.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2018, 11:22:44 AM »
Tru dat.

Now... This thread was originally intended as a sort of "random thought" thread, but given how it've turned out i found it fitting to move it to the serious part of the boards.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2018, 03:29:17 PM »
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Quote from: Billy Underdog on March 17, 2018, 03:47:11 AM
Quote from: Thelemech on March 16, 2018, 04:17:24 PM
:death: I HATE Nazis and skinheads - just sayin :batdance:

A bit of an oxymoron, considering the who the original Skinheads were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead

I have never read that before - very interesting. I guess I am coming from my experience with Skinheads in the late 80s and 90s they were all Neo Nazis and racist scumbags.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2018, 03:32:37 PM »
Quote from: Thelemech on March 17, 2018, 03:29:17 PM
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Quote from: Billy Underdog on March 17, 2018, 03:47:11 AM
Quote from: Thelemech on March 16, 2018, 04:17:24 PM
:death: I HATE Nazis and skinheads - just sayin :batdance:

A bit of an oxymoron, considering the who the original Skinheads were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead

I have never read that before - very interesting. I guess I am coming from my experience with Skinheads in the late 80s and 90s they were all Neo Nazis and racist scumbags.

You live and you learn ;)  :thumbsup:
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Re: Why?
« Reply #50 on: March 17, 2018, 04:53:15 PM »
Quote from: Charger on March 14, 2018, 03:19:04 AM
I'm really not very good in deutsch...my knowlage of the language limits pretty much in car lingo as I have bought few cars from there...

Kupplung, Gangschaltung, Sitzheizung, Windschutzscheibe?  :D
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Re: Why?
« Reply #51 on: March 17, 2018, 05:24:50 PM »
Quote from: Thelemech on March 17, 2018, 03:29:17 PM
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Quote from: Billy Underdog on March 17, 2018, 03:47:11 AM
Quote from: Thelemech on March 16, 2018, 04:17:24 PM
:death: I HATE Nazis and skinheads - just sayin :batdance:

A bit of an oxymoron, considering the who the original Skinheads were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead

I have never read that before - very interesting. I guess I am coming from my experience with Skinheads in the late 80s and 90s they were all Neo Nazis and racist scumbags.

It's an interesting history for sure. I admit I don't know very much about it, just a few basic facts. Anyway, the present situation is different, and as I said highly dependent on where you live. E.g. in the part of Berlin where I live, which has a disproportionally high amount of Nazi voters (but even more leftwing voters - they are much less obvious on the streets though), I see skinheads walking around regularly, and it is pretty clear from their clothes and tattoos etc. that they are all Nazis.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2018, 06:09:39 PM »
In the 90's there was street fights, bordering to actual war between left wing skinhead punks (called Blitzers, as the occupied house they centered around was called Blitz) and neo-Nazis in Oslo. They used to call themselves "shorthaired gentlemens".
Just a small anecdote...
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Re: Why?
« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2018, 06:26:50 PM »
 
Quote from: Sabbabbath on March 17, 2018, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: Charger on March 14, 2018, 03:19:04 AM
I'm really not very good in deutsch...my knowlage of the language limits pretty much in car lingo as I have bought few cars from there...

Kupplung, Gangschaltung, Sitzheizung, Windschutzscheibe?  :D

Nowadays more like komfortzugang, aktivesitzbelüftung, aktive geschwindigkeitsregelung & Adaptives kurvenlicht... ;)

Hey just wanna say sorry to Billy I kinda derailed this thread...that was not my intent. I see the error of my ways now...and it's time for me to be:
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Re: Why?
« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2018, 06:31:31 PM »
^^^ Derailing a bit isn't the worst thing in the world. As long as you're not a train... :)
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« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2018, 03:51:44 AM »
Quote from: Charger on March 17, 2018, 06:26:50 PM
Quote from: Sabbabbath on March 17, 2018, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: Charger on March 14, 2018, 03:19:04 AM
I'm really not very good in deutsch...my knowlage of the language limits pretty much in car lingo as I have bought few cars from there...

Kupplung, Gangschaltung, Sitzheizung, Windschutzscheibe?  :D

Nowadays more like komfortzugang, aktivesitzbelüftung, aktive geschwindigkeitsregelung & Adaptives kurvenlicht... ;)



Great, I kinda hoped I could make you come up with several German words that I never heard before - and I succeeded. :lol: "Aktive Geschwindigkeitsregelung", OMG, this term (totally new to me) perfectly summarises how German is a fascinating and frightening at the same time.

As long as we all learn something, I agree with Billy that a little derailing of a thread is fine.  :D
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Re: Why?
« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2018, 07:28:57 AM »
Quote from: Sabbabbath on March 18, 2018, 03:51:44 AM
Great, I kinda hoped I could make you come up with several German words that I never heard before - and I succeeded. :lol: "Aktive Geschwindigkeitsregelung", OMG, this term (totally new to me) perfectly summarises how German is a fascinating and frightening at the same time.

As long as we all learn something, I agree with Billy that a little derailing of a thread is fine.  :D

Glad to be of service! :D

I do remember you don't drive so I can understand car terms might not be so known to you.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2018, 07:56:52 AM »
Quote from: Charger on March 18, 2018, 07:28:57 AM
Quote from: Sabbabbath on March 18, 2018, 03:51:44 AM
Great, I kinda hoped I could make you come up with several German words that I never heard before - and I succeeded. :lol: "Aktive Geschwindigkeitsregelung", OMG, this term (totally new to me) perfectly summarises how German is a fascinating and frightening at the same time.

As long as we all learn something, I agree with Billy that a little derailing of a thread is fine.  :D

Glad to be of service! :D

I do remember you don't drive so I can understand car terms might not be so known to you.

Exactly! And I am really not a fan of cars, but I admit those terms you mentioned are fun, even for me as a native German language speaker.  :wootwoot:
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Re: Why?
« Reply #58 on: March 31, 2018, 04:10:36 PM »
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Re: Why?
« Reply #59 on: April 01, 2018, 11:01:57 AM »
Saw the mention of Nazis getting to South America by way of the Vatican. That was a focus of my research for a while, documenting the criminals that the US intelligence network would protect from prosecution in exchange for support in building out anti-communist networks in postwar Europe.

The criminals would get to South America by way of Cardinal Draganovic of the Croatian College in The Vatican. Fascist sympathizers were able to remain and be incorporated into Gladio programs, designed to create and maintain potential partisan groups to operate behind Communist lines in the event of a Soviet-led invasion of Western Europe. In Italy, the Gladio networks were used to create a strategy of tension, in which extremists of both sides were pitted against each other in violent outbursts, with an intention to drive voters to centrist parties in the name of providing stability - even though the centrists were the ones responsible for putting the violence into motion.
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