Dissident Voice

[Billy Underdog]

it's also around the same timeframe we've had organized religion, basically the first set of laws.

Now, that's a VERY modest estimate, based on what we can prove archaeologically. Most likely organized religion (as opposed to faith) stems back to the agricultural revolution, which is also when we start developing the idea of "yours and mine" as opposed to ours. In a hunter/gatherer- and the very earliest neolithic societies, cooperation was key to survival.

[Typhon]

With an equal distribution of resources there wouldn't be any need for envy about location either.

So I'm suppose to work hard my whole life to wind up equal with a lazy bum.  F**k you!

[Charger]

With an equal distribution of resources there wouldn't be any need for envy about location either.

So I'm suppose to work hard my whole life to wind up equal with a lazy bum.  F**k you!

But in a perfect world there wouldn't be any lazy bums...they would have all been shot!

[Billy Underdog]

With an equal distribution of resources there wouldn't be any need for envy about location either.

So I'm suppose to work hard my whole life to wind up equal with a lazy bum.  F**k you!

And some while ago you claimed to understand communism. Clearly you don't, but have simply gulped the propaganda... 

Funny that you live in a country where people are working hard all their life, sometimes three jobs at the same time, and still they end up unequal to lazy rich bastards...

[Billy Underdog]

With an equal distribution of resources there wouldn't be any need for envy about location either.

So I'm suppose to work hard my whole life to wind up equal with a lazy bum.  F**k you!

But in a perfect world there wouldn't be any lazy bums...they would have all been shot!

Being a bum is not about being lazy, actually it's a pretty hard life trying to survive. It's about missed opportunities and being born into the wrong environment. Yes, there can be misguided choises, something that also can be ruled out with an equal opportunity society.

A lazy bum would just die naturally...

[Vyn]

This makes me want to go play:

[Zzzptm]

I agree. We can have plentiful resources as far as food, water, shelter, clothing - enough for everyone and more. Free stuff for one and all.

But... not everyone can live at the same address. There is a scarcity of location.

We do not live forever... there is a scarcity of time.

I may want to be with someone that does not want to be with me... there is a scarcity of love and/or companionship.

If someone places inordinate importance on one of these things to the point where they would be determined to solve their problem through crime, then that selfishness results in lawbreaking.

Once again, emotions like fear of death and loss of love can be overrun. With an equal distribution of resources there wouldn't be any need for envy about location either.

You're assuming all people can be rational. Experimental data indicates otherwise. An attachment to a location can be based on an emotional desire, independent of access to resources. There are a lot of people that want to live on a beach, for example. Not just live crowded on a beach, but to live with comfortable amounts of room in their home and to have private access to a nice bit of shore that's not messed up by an inconsiderate neighbor's private access.

As for love, it's the standard question of the obsessive maniac... "If I can't have my heart's desire, then no-one shall!" Short of extreme methods of mind control, we don't have a means to stop such people outside of explaining calmly that there are laws, and we have to live by them. The law does not fail if one person breaks it. Rather, it succeeds because of all the people who observe it, even when it clashes with their selfish desires.

Back to the beach access question... I'm pretty sure there's enough oceanfront beach property in the world to provide everyone with such a location. The question is now whether or not people also want a location that is near to mountains, with a certain climate, with access to urban conveniences... and, suddenly, we have a crowded situation for those beaches while beautiful strands of sand north of the Arctic Circle go unclaimed...

[Billy Underdog]

^^^ Funny that you managed to touch upon the futility of laws there

But, yeah, both of your examples are about emotions. We know emotions can be overrun, changed, twisted and warped.
If a person become irrational, it's because of a cognitive dissonance. In an equal society it goes without saying that's one of the most important issues to deal with.
A person longing for living on a beach can learn to be happy somewhere else. An obsessive lover can get help getting over that obsession.