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Title: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on October 21, 2020, 07:13:49 AM
I don't know if you guys are as interested in space related stuff as I am but I thought I'd still post some news from out there here.



NASA's Osiris-REx probe has succesfully taken a sample from the surface of the asteroid BENNU and is bringing it back to earth as we speak.

https://videos.space.com/m/r9Zm0mRL/touch-and-go-complete-nasa-osiris-rex-completes-maneuver-to-sample-asteroid-bennu?list=6DUiA9a3&fbclid=IwAR0WMuQSty99yjodJ3qYrlZAIk718BGOfRpytf3fRuh0x5nuRnD032RYUT8 (https://videos.space.com/m/r9Zm0mRL/touch-and-go-complete-nasa-osiris-rex-completes-maneuver-to-sample-asteroid-bennu?list=6DUiA9a3&fbclid=IwAR0WMuQSty99yjodJ3qYrlZAIk718BGOfRpytf3fRuh0x5nuRnD032RYUT8)
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on October 21, 2020, 08:05:33 AM
I love me some space exploration stuff, ever since the Voyager craft sent back data in the 70s.

I like the various documentaries that get shown from time to time.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on October 21, 2020, 11:11:08 AM
YES! MOAR SPAES!!!

I'm very interested in what that probe brings back.

Also, did anyone else see a story recently about "sonification" of stellar images? Basically, take the image data and use it to drive a MIDI to create a sonic version. It actually helps in spotting patterns.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on November 08, 2020, 03:27:41 PM
Quite the fireball over Scandinavia last night:

http://norskmeteornettverk.no/meteor/20201107/212700/larvik/cam2/larvik-20201107212700-gnomonic.mp4 (http://norskmeteornettverk.no/meteor/20201107/212700/larvik/cam2/larvik-20201107212700-gnomonic.mp4)

It was spotted in Norway, Sweden and also here in Finland..

This one was captured by a URSA's fireball camera in Tampere:
https://www.taivaanvahti.fi/observations/show/94749#o94749-8 (https://www.taivaanvahti.fi/observations/show/94749#o94749-8)
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on November 08, 2020, 04:26:26 PM
North Korea testing their long range missiles!  8)
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Vyn on November 08, 2020, 04:30:14 PM
Aliens.

Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on November 09, 2020, 12:16:26 PM
No. Deep Purple fans, many of whom live in Scandinavia.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on November 16, 2020, 01:49:15 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/fast-radio-bursts-blasts-space-galaxy-frb-b1723714.html

Cool link between FRBs and Magnetars
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on November 19, 2020, 04:47:45 PM
Extremely sad news coming in:

Arecibo radio telescope, an icon of astronomy, is lost:

The National Science Foundation (NSF) will decommission Arecibo Observatory's massive radio dish after damage has made the facility too dangerous to repair, the agency announced today (Nov. 19).

https://www.space.com/arecibo-observatory-radio-telescope-to-be-destroyed?fbclid=IwAR01zm16qx7Qo9qctKchKEMFc0EJNxTS7ymAFO89yaotIihmfI1dNN0IDr4 (https://www.space.com/arecibo-observatory-radio-telescope-to-be-destroyed?fbclid=IwAR01zm16qx7Qo9qctKchKEMFc0EJNxTS7ymAFO89yaotIihmfI1dNN0IDr4)

This landmark radio telescope has been featured in movies, tv series and computer games and has done some extremely valuable research over the years...and the void that it leaves can not be filled with any radio telescope on earth at the moment...
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on November 20, 2020, 09:21:15 AM
Yeah, I saw that news earlier today. The telescope has been having maintenance issues for many years and the storms of the past few I guess were too much to handle.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Vyn on November 20, 2020, 12:18:37 PM
End of an era.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on November 20, 2020, 12:37:51 PM
Meanwhile, wondering how real estate agents would spin "atmosphere of vaporized rock" and sell plots on this planet:

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/bizarre-molten-planet-discovered-lava-ocean-supersonic-winds-n1246654
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on November 30, 2020, 04:38:47 PM
Just watched this video about cosmic background radiation... very fun stuff to think about at the end!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATpd9ZRud94
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on December 02, 2020, 08:31:58 AM
And now it is gone...

https://www.space.com/arecibo-observatory-radio-telescope-collapse-photos?fbclid=IwAR1FyDNAgft3G2Le_IJwywHrfVZoDLuy9Xso6_e3YcL9omGRqpR8JKDjJ1o (https://www.space.com/arecibo-observatory-radio-telescope-collapse-photos?fbclid=IwAR1FyDNAgft3G2Le_IJwywHrfVZoDLuy9Xso6_e3YcL9omGRqpR8JKDjJ1o)

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The National Science Foundation's Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico, known for its studies of asteroids and aliens and for its cameo in a James Bond film, collapsed this morning (Dec. 1). The 900-ton platform that hung above the radio dish fell 450 feet (140 meters) into the structure below around 8 a.m. local time, causing massive damage documented online.

(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/R3isUwMTZYtsmDL6E5ar9E-970-80.jpg)

Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on December 02, 2020, 08:36:30 AM
I saw that earlier, very sad, and some decent maintenance would have prevented it from happening. :(
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on December 02, 2020, 10:29:28 AM
I saw that earlier, very sad, and some decent maintenance would have prevented it from happening. :(

I know... now it's much more expensive to revive, and that makes it all the less likely to get revived.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Tyr66 on December 02, 2020, 01:12:22 PM
I saw that earlier, very sad, and some decent maintenance would have prevented it from happening. :(

I am told in the headset that Jodie Foster wants to Contact Magneto ...
seriously, really a shame. :(
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on December 04, 2020, 11:20:06 AM
Video of the collapse of Arecibo:

https://www.space.com/arecibo-observatory-collapse-drone-video-nsf-evaluation?fbclid=IwAR1PLdglnUpZiXT8pVdLmEzrhY6f8ymR-q0K9lGFdoPoJjGdagE8MdPT7qA (https://www.space.com/arecibo-observatory-collapse-drone-video-nsf-evaluation?fbclid=IwAR1PLdglnUpZiXT8pVdLmEzrhY6f8ymR-q0K9lGFdoPoJjGdagE8MdPT7qA)
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on December 04, 2020, 02:06:58 PM
whoaaaaa... cool in a way, sad in another...
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on December 04, 2020, 02:41:21 PM
whoaaaaa... cool in a way, sad in another...

Yeah I know...I've seen that collapse gazillion times in BF4 and it's cool...but see it happen for real....so so sad.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on December 07, 2020, 08:43:09 AM
They should maybe have launched it into space... Voyager spacecraft are still sending back usable data, and we think we have a new kind of solar radiation discovered based on that data.

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-12/uoi-vsd120120.php
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Typhon on December 22, 2020, 10:47:46 AM
Jupiter and Saturn merged in the night sky Monday, appearing closer to one another than they have since Galileo’s time in the 17th century.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on December 22, 2020, 03:27:57 PM
That's a good clear image, you can see the moons of Jupiter and the rings of Saturn.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on January 13, 2021, 01:32:49 PM


Very interesting, very relaxing, discussion of a standout SETI discovery. Three repeats on an unusual signal, for starters...
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on January 16, 2021, 07:27:14 PM
When galaxies collide, it can kill them...

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/space/galaxy-stars-death-gas-eso-alma-b1785539.html
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on March 08, 2021, 12:10:45 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/space/quasar-radio-black-hole-jets-b1813993.html

Signals from when the universe was only 780 million years old, 13 billion years ago...
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Typhon on August 14, 2021, 08:30:52 AM
Does Shatner have no vision?  :wtf:

Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on September 18, 2021, 07:25:10 AM


Plenty of anomalies around this star, I find it fascinating.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on October 05, 2021, 09:27:35 AM
Say hello to Mercury courtesy of BepiColombo:

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2021/10/Hello_Mercury_annotated (https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2021/10/Hello_Mercury_annotated)

Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on October 05, 2021, 09:59:58 AM
Awesome point for way cool Mercury stuff! I love that mention of "hollows", that got my imagination charged about what's boiling away into space there.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on October 13, 2021, 09:12:45 AM
In just less than 18 minutes Blue Origins flight NS-18 takes off and on board is one living legend mr. WILLIAM SHATNER who will become the oldest person ever in space at the age of 90!!

90!!! Can you imagine that!? What a legend.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on October 13, 2021, 10:00:21 AM
I should be having as much fun as him when I'm 90! :D

Kirk's the OG Enterprise captain, for sure!
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on October 13, 2021, 10:34:33 AM
Yup!

Succesful mission and a life altering experience for 4 people...Bill was pretty damn moved by it all but he still managed to say some beautiful words as soon as he got out of the pod...incredible...
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on October 13, 2021, 10:47:59 AM
I am truly happy for him, the guy's had a great run in life.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Thelemech on October 13, 2021, 06:51:54 PM
I still cannot believe that Shatner is 90!! A legend indeed!!
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on October 14, 2021, 02:59:40 AM
He's certainly doing great for 90.

I wonder: if Leonard Nimoy was still with us, if they would both have had the invite and gone up together?
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on October 27, 2021, 04:03:22 PM
Professor Brian Cox has a new series called Universe, the first episode has has just aired on the BBC. First episode covers the stars. I don't think the information is going to be new to close followers of the subject, but I discovered a couple of things I didn't know before.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on January 22, 2022, 04:09:57 PM


It's possible that the stars like Tabby's Star are all having natural phenomena causing them to appear to dim... but the intervals of dimming are regular... and all the stars with this pattern of dimming are proximate to each other... if it's not intelligent life activity doing these things, then it's a highly-localized stellar phenomenon that we're going to need more data in order to understand. It's a great story in astronomy to follow.

My equally-favorite story is the planned probe to check out the upper atmosphere of Venus for further evidence of possible biological activity.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on January 22, 2022, 04:31:10 PM
Tabby's Star is an interesting phenomenon for sure. I think currently the majority believes it a dust cloud of some kind or a vast field of comets...but they are just theories...

It would be rather awesome if there would be some alien mega structure causing the dimming but I think that's a bit far fetched to be honest. I am 100% sure there are highly advanced alien races out there but building something that big doesn't seem sensible at all.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on January 22, 2022, 04:47:32 PM
True, it makes no sense to us... but we're also not quite at the level of doing more than contemplate the possibilities of such. 

And for the natural phenomenon side of the issue... the localized nature of it is what I find most baffling. Next most baffling is how it's cold but sharp-edged, so it's not like planets or dust...
Title: Supernova seen as it happens
Post by: Zzzptm on March 15, 2022, 08:12:21 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/space/scientists-explosion-cartwheel-galaxy-supernova-b2035265.html

Or, rather, as it *happened*. Light-years and all... :D
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on March 15, 2022, 08:52:36 AM
Very cool indeed.

I merged this with the topic we already had for these types of news. ;)


The power of these novas is quite phenomenal considering we can spot one from a galaxy over 500 MILLION light years away.!
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on March 15, 2022, 02:40:00 PM
And then... the stuff of those explosions lands on planets... enriching them with metals and higher elements. Prerequisites for higher life as we understand its needs.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Typhon on September 12, 2022, 02:28:02 PM
The country of India making some really strides in space exploration.

https://rumble.com/v1jd4q0-isro-the-next-10-years.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&ep=2 (https://rumble.com/v1jd4q0-isro-the-next-10-years.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&ep=2)
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Charger on September 30, 2022, 09:41:04 AM
Yes India is becoming a space country as well rather quickly.

The race to Moon and Mars (and beyond) has fueled up several countries...especially with the US and now Russia falling behind...

But I do believe that the future of space travel doesn't lie with countries it lies with private companies... The large structures that might be built on orbit and on the moon might still be mainly funded by countries but the day to day flights might very well be operated by companies.

Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on September 30, 2022, 11:33:46 AM
Read an article on the fine structure constant, approximated at 1/137. In arriving at it, all the involved units canceled out, leaving just a number. And it seems to not vary with time, but with *location*.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on October 14, 2022, 09:13:06 AM
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/black-hole-spews-out-material-years-after-shredding-a-star-weve-never-seen-anything-like-this/

The outflow from this black hole consumption event is 3 years later than normal and is moving 5 times faster than normal. Fantastic stuff, discoveries like this that mean we need to re-think some of what we've thought. :)
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Zzzptm on July 29, 2024, 05:37:55 PM
Very interesting bits of science from Mars in the last few weeks...



Not proof of life on Mars, but suggestions that it may have once had microbial life. Very interesting stuff.
Title: Re: Space...the final frontier news!
Post by: Vyn on July 29, 2024, 06:05:04 PM
Is that...Maria Muldaur behind one of those sand dunes?!?