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ROCK AND ROLL! => All Them Other Guys => Topic started by: AnnoMundi on January 30, 2020, 05:09:42 PM
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Been listening to the two Maiden/Blaze albums lately, and was thinking those two albums are better and more refreshing than anything they’ve done with Dickinson since Seventh Son.
Man, there are some really good songs on those two albums, would like to hear others opinions on this.
I think they would’ve done better had they continued with Blaze, the Dickinson stuff just got boring and old same sounding after Seventh Son, Blaze brought some new energized feeling to Maiden’s music, just my thoughts today.
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I think the The X-Factor and Virtual XI had some really good songs on them, I just wish Blaze sounded better, his vocals a are very rough... but maybe that was deliberate.
I actually like much on the later albums, yes if you took Brave New World, Dance of Death, A Matter of Life and Death and The Final Frontier, cut our the crap you could probably get two fantastic albums out of them and one average one! But apart from a few songs I rarely listen to any Maiden except those I've mentioned plus Beast, Piece and Powerslave.
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I think the The X-Factor and Virtual XI had some really good songs on them, I just wish Blaze sounded better, his vocals a are very rough... but maybe that was deliberate.
I actually like much on the later albums, yes if you took Brave New World, Dance of Death, A Matter of Life and Death and The Final Frontier, cut our the crap you could probably get two fantastic albums out of them and one average one! But apart from a few songs I rarely listen to any Maiden except those I've mentioned plus Beast, Piece and Powerslave.
Hi Kilo, I think Blaze’s vocals are great, I don’t hear the roughness in his vocals, I think his vocals are very good and fit Maiden perfectly, but thank you for your thoughts in this, it’s good to hear other’s opinions.
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I must admit I find the Blaze albums to be incredibly weak and boring. Not that big of a fan of the newer
Dickinson albums either but I really like Brave New World and I thought The Book Of Souls was interesting.
There is nothing that can touch those first seven albums IMHO though.
Now I do like some Blaze as a solo artist but I am unfamiliar with the majority of his works.
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Well I am a huge fan of Blaze and I do very much enjoy The X Factor and Virtual XI!
In fact The X Factor was my very first Iron Maiden album so it holds a very special place in my heart because of that too. Eventhough my very first Iron Maiden song I ever heard was Losfer Words on midi (!!!) in school back in '97.
Anyways...
There aren't really any weak songs on The X Factor...an incredibly strong album. It is a very dark album, which is probably why I love it so much. Blaze's deeper and more emotional vocal style fits perfectly to that album. Which probably is why they made it like they did. Also Blaze's lyrics have always been fantastic and I have always enjoyed his lyrics much more than Bruce's.
Man On The Edge, Sign Of The Cross, Fortunes Of War, 2 AM, The Edge Of Darkness and my absolute favourite Judgement Of Heaven are all Iron Maiden classics in my book.
Virtual XI was a bit happier sounding album. But that's not a bad thing. In fact that album features Iron Maiden's best ever track The Clansman. Also Futureal, Lightning Strikes Twice, When Two Worlds Collide and The Educated Fool are brilliant to say the least. Angel And The Gambler starts off great and the riffing is fantastic but then Harris went over board with his repetitions (which then continued on and on and on with Brave New World) same for Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger...great song again but would have benefitted from cutting a minute or so. The ballad Como Estais Amigoes is still the most emotional song Iron Maiden has ever done...
There is a lot more of respect for these albums nowadays than there were before. Ofcourse all of the Brucey fan boys hated this albums back then and literally spitted on Blaze (for no reason exept he wasn't Bruce) but now even some of them have started to realise that there actually is some great stuff on these two albums. And I have always given credit to Bruce for actually prefroming these songs live.
As far as Blaze's solo stuff goes that is most certainly worth checking out. His solo stuff beats these two Maiden albums and everything Bruce ever did solo. Mainly because of his incredible lyrical skills. Also Blaze has been able to find good musicians to play with.
Blaze is a great singer in his own right. He just was never Bruce and he never tried to be Bruce. It's the same as it was with Sabbath and Ronnie or Priest and Tim. They were their own voices and used them perfectly...and were hated by the fanboy armies...
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I must admit I find the Blaze albums to be incredibly weak and boring. Not that big of a fan of the newer
Dickinson albums either but I really like Brave New World and I thought The Book Of Souls was interesting.
There is nothing that can touch those first seven albums IMHO though.
Now I do like some Blaze as a solo artist but I am unfamiliar with the majority of his works.
His solo stuff I don’t know, but I think his Maiden work, is quite exciting and full of energy, and he has a great voice.
Both albums are fantastic in my opinion.
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Well I am a huge fan of Blaze and I do very much enjoy The X Factor and Virtual XI!
In fact The X Factor was my very first Iron Maiden album so it holds a very special place in my heart because of that too. Eventhough my very first Iron Maiden song I ever heard was Losfer Words on midi (!!!) in school back in '97.
Anyways...
There aren't really any weak songs on The X Factor...an incredibly strong album. It is a very dark album, which is probably why I love it so much. Blaze's deeper and more emotional vocal style fits perfectly to that album. Which probably is why they made it like they did. Also Blaze's lyrics have always been fantastic and I have always enjoyed his lyrics much more than Bruce's.
Man On The Edge, Sign Of The Cross, Fortunes Of War, 2 AM, The Edge Of Darkness and my absolute favourite Judgement Of Heaven are all Iron Maiden classics in my book.
Virtual XI was a bit happier sounding album. But that's not a bad thing. In fact that album features Iron Maiden's best ever track The Clansman. Also Futureal, Lightning Strikes Twice, When Two Worlds Collide and The Educated Fool are brilliant to say the least. Angel And The Gambler starts off great and the riffing is fantastic but then Harris went over board with his repetitions (which then continued on and on and on with Brave New World) same for Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger...great song again but would have benefitted from cutting a minute or so. The ballad Como Estais Amigoes is still the most emotional song Iron Maiden has ever done...
There is a lot more of respect for these albums nowadays than there were before. Ofcourse all of the Brucey fan boys hated this albums back then and literally spitted on Blaze (for no reason exept he wasn't Bruce) but now even some of them have started to realise that there actually is some great stuff on these two albums. And I have always given credit to Bruce for actually prefroming these songs live.
As far as Blaze's solo stuff goes that is most certainly worth checking out. His solo stuff beats these two Maiden albums and everything Bruce ever did solo. Mainly because of his incredible lyrical skills. Also Blaze has been able to find good musicians to play with.
Blaze is a great singer in his own right. He just was never Bruce and he never tried to be Bruce. It's the same as it was with Sabbath and Ronnie or Priest and Tim. They were their own voices and used them perfectly...and were hated by the fanboy armies...
I’m glad you feel the same way about Blaze as I do Charger, he is very underrated and I hate fanboys.
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OID :whistling:
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OID :whistling:
Hi Jack what is oid? That have something to do with Blaze Bayley?
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I haven't given it any thought, but I don't recall ever having listened to anything that had Blaze on it. So I can't really comment.
I think Jack was just Offering Instructional Direction :banana:
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OID :whistling:
Hi Jack what is oid? That have something to do with Blaze Bayley?
He was one of the biggest fanboys ever on the BSO forum...
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I haven't given it any thought, but I don't recall ever having listened to anything that had Blaze on it. So I can't really comment.
I think Jack was just Offering Instructional Direction :banana:
You should give it a try Vyn, I think they might have the albums on YouTube, just listen tot he entire albums when you get a chance, I'd love to hear your opinion.
I don't get the instructional direction, sorry Vyn.
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OID :whistling:
Hi Jack what is oid? That have something to do with Blaze Bayley?
He was one of the biggest fanboys ever on the BSO forum...
Oh I get it now, well fanboys are never good, they just stick to one era of the band and don't give the others a try.
Sabbath is a good example, there are those who hate the Dio era just because it's not Ozzy on those albums, and we all know here that Sabbath has good albums from all the eras from Ozzy to Martin.
I'll use another good example, Deep Purple, I like their material with the original singer Rod Evans, David Coverdale, Glen Hughes and Joe Lynn Turner, but my favorite would be the Gillan era, but I still enjoy the other eras too.
I like all the eras of Maiden, just not the stuff Bruce did after Seventh, but then again I have listened to exactly everything after Seventh Son, just stop buying the albums up till No Prayer For The Dying and Fear Of The Dark and started buying them again on The X Factor and Virtual XI, the two albums after Seventh with Bruce just got boring and uninspired.
Fanboys loose out on a lot being fanboys.
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Fanboys loose out on a lot being fanboys.
That is quite true indeed. And the thing is usually they don't even bother listening to the other stuff so they only form their opinions on the fact that it's not Ozzy or Brucey or Rob or whoever singing...and that's ridiculous to say the least.
Oh and OID wasn't that kind of a fanboy...he was everything sabbath fanboy...and nothing else mattered to him...only Sabbath. ;D
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Fanboys loose out on a lot being fanboys.
That is quite true indeed. And the thing is usually they don't even bother listening to the other stuff so they only form their opinions on the fact that it's not Ozzy or Brucey or Rob or whoever singing...and that's ridiculous to say the least.
Oh and OID wasn't that kind of a fanboy...he was everything sabbath fanboy...and nothing else mattered to him...only Sabbath. ;D
That is ridiculous, if the music is good is what matters, yeah I might have a preference for a singer like I do Dio, but I would not stop listening to the Ozzy Sabbath stuff because it’s not Dio singing.
So this guy just listened to Sabbath and nothing else? Holy shit that’s even a worse fan boy!
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^^ Yeah it is a bit ridiculous. There’s even replacement singer singer fanboys too :lol:
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Fucking Dave Walker, man. He coulda took them to a whole nother level. Shit, Dave Walker Band #1 makes Sabbath look puny. Dave Walker Band #2 makes Sabbath forgettable. Donovan's Brain? Shit, son, don't even get me started.
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...And just to add. There are some that just didn’t like the direction a band went in with the new/replacement singer or the actual tone and delivery of the new/replacement singer...Or in some cases both.
Fucking crazy eh? It’s hard to get your head around :twitch:
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...And just to add. There are some that just didn’t like the direction a band went in with the new/replacement singer or the actual tone and delivery of the new/replacement singer...Or in some cases both.
Fucking crazy eh? It’s hard to get your head around :twitch:
If you don’t like a replacement singer because of the way he sounds or the tone direction the music took, that’s different.
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There are those that even consider Dickinson to be "the replacement singer". Thinking of Billy, here. :)
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There are those that even consider Dickinson to be "the replacement singer". Thinking of Billy, here. :)
Haha! True that! To him Iron Maiden was only with DiAnno... Man we had some fun debates about that over the years.
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There are those that even consider Dickinson to be "the replacement singer". Thinking of Billy, here. :)
I like Dickinson, I found Maiden through him, just that he got boring and Blaze brought a whole new energy to the band, even if it were short lived.
Was listening to The X Factor yesterday, great album, Sign of the Cross.
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This story is a few years old as there isn’t much going on in the music industry right now so a lot of music sites are regurgitating old stories and this came across my feed today. Very enlightening I must say and very much still relevant today.
https://www.loudersound.com/features/what-s-it-like-to-be-blaze-bayley
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Blaze is such an incredibly humble and down to earth guy...and he's been through so much...the loss of Debbie was a big hit for him...she was a stellar person...I had the privilege of knowing her too...through the internet ofcourse but still...what a lovely person...and she worked hard for Blaze too...so it was devastating blow when she passed...It a sheer wonder that Blaze was able to carry on after that. And elevate himself on a new level too both in his singing and song writing...it's like he wanted to push himself further to honor Debbie.
There is a reason why Blaze is so incredibly loved by his fans. The guy always takes the time to sign stuff, take pictures and just talk to the fans night after night on every single show he does.
I remember few years ago when he and DiAnno did that one tour together, Blaze played first and then when DiAnno hit the stage Blaze came out in the bar to sign stuff and talk to the fans...there were more people queuing to talk to Blaze than there were watching DiAnno play! :D
I was among the first to chat Blaze on that night as I had no interest in seeing DiAnno butcher those Maiden classics and soon there was a huuuge line behind me, so I had to move on but we still had a nice chat and got my stuff signed. I didn't stay to see DiAnno but I heard afterwards he never came out to see the fans...but Blaze stayed on even after that! What a guy.
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Sounds like he’s had more downs than ups in his personal and professional life. Getting the lead singers role in Maiden is a huge feather in anyone’s cap though.
It’s great that he treats his fans well too but managing only 50 fans at a show is probably a lot easier than managing many hundreds or thousands and if you are only getting 50 people at your shows you probably want to go out of your way to give them the best and most memorable experience you can to make sure you keep them as fans. Unlike the super arrogant Di’Anno who couldn’t give a fuck about giving the fans a great experience.
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Not to get sidetracked, but Di'Anno's history is a patchwork of constant turmoil. Ironically, he was brought into Maiden because he was *more* stable than their first singer!
Good on Blaze for taking care of his fans! I always love it when artists can give as much as they can to their fans, never do like it when a distance has to exist for security or logistical purposes.