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General Category => Matters of Life and The Universe => Topic started by: discman69 on September 11, 2018, 07:13:18 AM
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While the tragic event happened in America, there is no doubt that those events that happened on the morning of September 11th shook the entire World. So now 17 years later do you still remember where you were or what you were doing?
I was working in the Banking/Credit card world at that time. I usually was in at work by 7:30. I remember at about 9 going to the break room and many of my co-workers watching TV. Could hardly even get in there. Shortly after saw the second plane hit the Tower. All of us in shock, many of us tearing up. Wondering what the hell was going on. I was calling my wife. Panic started to take over many of us. While Delaware isn't a major place we just thought what could happen next. Shortly after the South tower collapsed we got a call on the intercom that everyone can go home. It seemed like forever trying to get home. Finally with my wife by my side at our house I couldn't take my eyes off the TV. I was sad, mad, scared and pissed all in one. My wife went into major depression, depression I still believe she carries to this day. It was such a sad day for all human beings.
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I had left my job at Microsoft the day before and was expecting to start with a start-up a few weeks later. It was a Tuesday. I had dropped my son and daughter off at school and had just gotten home when my wife showed me the news, how a plane had collided with the first tower. I was watching the footage as the second plane hit the second tower.
With the one plane, I thought it could be anything. With the second plane, I knew it was no accident.
I felt very cold the rest of that day and the day following, like I do when someone close to me passes on. Soon afterward, I believed that the attacks were known about and permitted through. But I have since decided that that was a sort of defense mechanism, because the truth of such an uncoordinated response to that security event was of nightmarish proportions. So many mistakes before, during, and after are easy to explain away as part of a convoluted plot. The truth is, and this is much worse than a deep state letting one through in order to grab hold of the government, is that the attacks showed how full of holes our national security was at the time, and which remains so to this day.
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I remember it like it was yesterday...
I was working on a high school swidish project...an essay and then my cousing who had heard the news on the radio while driving called me to turn on my tv...and I did and I was in shock...First I thought it had been some kind of freak accident but then only few minutes into the broadcast the second plane hit in live tv feed...I remember practically falling to my knees while sitting...it was a totally unreal feeling. Something I doubt (and HOPE) I will never feel again.
Not to mention then seeing people jumping from the towers and then the collapse...
Every year since then I have always hung the US flag up on the side of my house for the victims who died in this cowardly attack by the most evil people in the planet, radical islamic terrorists...and I shall keep doing this till the day I die. Also because it was not just an attack against the US it was an attack against the entire civilized world....and it will never be forgotten and most certainly never forgiven.
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I was downtown on 9/11 and I can remember passing this audio/visual store and the place was packed. As I went inside a friend came up and asked if I had seen what had happened.
I was watching the tv as the second plane crashed into the towers. I was in shock and like most of the people around me were flabbergasted at what was taking place live before our eyes.
I will always remember that day. Blessings and peace to all of the victims.
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I was at home working, doing nothing out of the ordinary. Of course shocked at what I was seeing.
I don't know if all of you have seen the tower they built to replace the Twin Towers. It is called One World Trade Center. I believe it was built to send a message. It is the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere. I'm not sure if this was done on purpose, but to me it appears to be a middle finger facing to the east. Have a look.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/OneWorldTradeCenter.jpg/250px-OneWorldTradeCenter.jpg)
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I was at home working, doing nothing out of the ordinary. Of course shocked at what I was seeing.
I don't know if all of you have seen the tower they built to replace the Twin Towers. It is called One World Trade Center. I believe it was built to send a message. It is the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere. I'm not sure if this was done on purpose, but to me it appears to be a middle finger facing to the east. Have a look.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/OneWorldTradeCenter.jpg/250px-OneWorldTradeCenter.jpg)
That's actually the view from New Jersey. :smug:
I've got travel that takes me to lower Manhattan and I stay at hotels right by the WTC site. The memorials there are very moving. I especially am moved by the one to the firefighters.
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I don't know if all of you have seen the tower they built to replace the Twin Towers. It is called One World Trade Center. I believe it was built to send a message. It is the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere. I'm not sure if this was done on purpose, but to me it appears to be a middle finger facing to the east. Have a look.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/OneWorldTradeCenter.jpg/250px-OneWorldTradeCenter.jpg)
Haha! That's quite the theory! But I guess it kind of looks like it.
One World Trade Center is actually 1776 feet tall...I'm pretty sure I know what that number represents. ;)
Beautiful building for sure and the tech just inside the needle on top is quite amazing...remember seeing a documentary of it's erection few years ago.
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Here we are again...
18 year ago since a bunch of cowardly scumbags attacked the whole world.
What can be easily overlooked is the fact that people from 62 (!!) different nations lost their lives on that day.
United States 2,605
United Kingdom 67
Dominican Republic 47
India 41
South Korea 28
Canada 24
Japan 24
Colombia 18
Jamaica 16
Philippines 16
Mexico 15
Trinidad and Tobago 14
Ecuador 13
Australia 11
Germany 11
Italy 10
Bangladesh 6
Ireland 6
Pakistan 6
Poland 6
Israel 5
Peru 5
Portugal 5
Argentina 4
France 4
Lebanon 4
Romania 4
Brazil 3
Ethiopia 3
Guyana 3
Malaysia 3
Bermuda 2
China 2
D.R. Congo 2
El Salvador 2
FR Yugoslavia 2
Ghana 2
Haiti 2
Hong Kong 2
Jordan 2
New Zealand 2
Paraguay 2
South Africa 2
Sweden 2
Switzerland 2
Belarus 1
Belgium 1
Chile 1
Honduras 1
Indonesia 1
Ivory Coast 1
Kenya 1
Lithuania 1
Moldova 1
Netherlands 1
Nigeria 1
Russia 1
Spain 1
Taiwan 1
Ukraine 1
Uzbekistan 1
Venezuela 1
No matter how much time has passed nobody should ever forget or forgive the events that took place on this day in 2001.
And no one should EVER NEVER trivialize it.
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^^^^^^
That list really makes the point. :beerbang:
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I saw part of this morning's memorial. It's always painful, but proud, to recall the memory of the firefighters and other emergency people who did their jobs.
It's good to know that on this 9/11, the funding for their healthcare is secured.
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THE BEST memorial speech I have heard in the past 18 years. Give this man a medal!
https://nypost.com/2019/09/11/9-11-victims-son-blasts-omar-at-ground-zero-memorial-service/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR0Ivgg7UmIZfC-Wm1nAGj2DVpLTockuW4XcvI4uK6WlFqcgvgMW0ba6Ff4 (https://nypost.com/2019/09/11/9-11-victims-son-blasts-omar-at-ground-zero-memorial-service/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR0Ivgg7UmIZfC-Wm1nAGj2DVpLTockuW4XcvI4uK6WlFqcgvgMW0ba6Ff4)
How that little piece of dog shit ever got elected in the first place is beyond me and seriously makes me worry about the future of the country.
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Was heading to work, heard the news guy say an airplane just crashed into one of the World Trade center towers. I recall thinking "damn, pilot must have had a heart attack". Also envisioning that it was a small turbo-prop.
Then they added it was a commercial airliner. Yikes, that sucks I thought.
Then the second one hit. By this time I'm in the office and everyone has a tv rolling.
It was sickening to watch. Then the Pentagon gets hit by a plane, then another plowed into the ground in PA. ALL planes were ordered to land immediately. So much tension and unfocused anger. We wanted someone to tell us what country launched the coordinated attack. So we could obliterate it and whoever belonged to it.
But that wasn't the case.
The Alamo? Mexico
The Maine? Spain
Pearl Harbor? Japan
9/11? An amorphous group of people from different countries. And what tied them together was a certain religious belief.
Holy Fucking Shit.
What a day - I will never forget.
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And what tied them together was a certain religious belief.
The root of the evil. >:(
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And what tied them together was a certain religious belief.
The root of the evil. >:(
Amen to that! (pun intended)
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1. Ilhan Omar is a person, not a piece of dog shit. If you're neither a racist or a misogynist, I'd ask you to rephrase your disappointment with her in a different way, if you please.
2. If you want to know how she got elected, look it up.
2a. Her Republican opponent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdimalik_Askar . Abdimalik Askar is a *Republican* person of Somali descent, also a Muslim. He withdrew from the election due to the death of his father and wanting to finish his doctoral degree.
2b. That means that, had Mr. Askar won the election, there would still be a Somali-American Muslim representing that congressional district in Minnesota.
2c. Please leave the Islamophobia at the door. Judge people one by one, not pre-judge them on the basis of their race, color, or creed.
3. What also tied the attackers together was a membership in a terrorist organization. A third factor was their connection with Saudi nationals in aiding and abetting their attacks.
3a. So many good people of the Muslim faith have been tarred by an unfair and untrue equivocation with their faith and terrorism.
3b. The overwhelming majority of Muslims do not want terrorists to succeed. Again, it is unfair and untrue to equate them all or even a majority of them or even a significant minority of them with terrorism.
Gents, we've got plenty of great stuff on other threads, but I'm getting to a point where the Stormfront-lite comments are bringing me to where I don't want to come back. I'd much rather be putting my energies of research and commentary towards things we have in common, not areas where we clearly have differences.
I was hoping that the 9/11 thread here would just be a quiet remembrance, not a springboard for additional attacks.
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I wasn't judging her by race or by religion...
I was judging her because she is a piece of dog shit that trivializes the death of over 3000 people into "some people did something"....Anyone who does that is a dog shit in my book...no matter the race, the sex, the religion or anything.
Why must you always make everything to be about race or religion? Stupid behaviour honestly. Some people are just pieces of shit period.
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I wasn't judging her by race or by religion...
I was judging her because she is a piece of dog shit that trivializes the death of over 3000 people into "some people did something"....Anyone who does that is a dog shit in my book...no matter the race, the sex, the religion or anything.
Why must you always make everything to be about race or religion? Stupid behaviour honestly. Some people are just pieces of shit period.
I have to agree with you Charger.
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"some people did something"....
@ Zzzptm: That is what the guy in the video that Charger linked to was criticizing her for. Nothing else.
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I'm going to stop posting in these threads, and I'm of the mind that maybe it's time to close the book on this experiment of political discussions. I'd like to come here to talk about music, sports, personal news, travel, stuff like that. I'm not enjoying the round-and-round threads, and I think we'd all be better off to move on to lighter topics. I know that there are members here who already steer clear of the political stuff, and I'm going to join with them.
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I'm going to stop posting in these threads, and I'm of the mind that maybe it's time to close the book on this experiment of political discussions. I'd like to come here to talk about music, sports, personal news, travel, stuff like that. I'm not enjoying the round-and-round threads, and I think we'd all be better off to move on to lighter topics. I know that there are members here who already steer clear of the political stuff, and I'm going to join with them.
Z, you can see the hatred on Omar’s face, she hates America and I can almost be sure she hates Caucasians too, and I’m no racist.
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It's been 19 years, but some wounds never heal...nor should they.
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Still unconscionable, and certainly not forgotten...
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(https://www.911memorial.org/sites/default/files/styles/standard/public/images/arial_pent2.jpg?itok=fj0CLTPO)
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I'm thinking of the firemen and policemen involved in the rescues. I'm glad to see that Jon Stewart was able to help them get Congress to cover their ongoing medical bills that came from their sacrifices.
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20 years since the most heinous act of terrorism in history...
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Lots of this on the TV today... the first story on news broadcasts. And Documentaries have been shown all week.
These anniversaries are important occassions to remind us that there is evil in the world, and we shouldn't forget the many victims.
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Watched the 6 part national geographic doco “9/11 One day in America” this week and still got very anxious leading up to the first plane hitting. The whole doco is chilling and makes for uncomfortable viewing which still to this day has a profound impact on me.
Got my 14yo daughter to watch part one and she was in tears listening to the recorded messages from people ringing home from both the hijacked planes and from inside the towers telling their families how much they loved them.
I love New Yorkers. Toughest people on earth.
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I'm dealing with a lot of stress, so I made a hard pass on reliving the news footage of the actual attacks and all that.
But I made time for the memorial. Some things you simply must do.
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Again we take a moment to remember all those who died on this day 23 years ago in an act of unspeakable horror committed by a bunch of cowardly islamic terrorist scumbags.
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May the victims of 9/11 rest in peace 🙏
I can still remember that day and watching the second plane hit live on the TV
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It's still hard to fully comprehend, even 23 years down the road.
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23 years... it seems way more recent than that.
I'm not sure the world is any safer these days.
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I'm not sure the world is any safer these days.
The avenues taken by the terrorists back then are no longer viable options but they simply find other ways to do their evil deeds. So, I don't think we are any safer. If anything, I'd say we - as a global community - are less safe. Especially in Europe, where some countries have immigration and maintenance policy that defies common sense.
At least, if I believe what the news and various people online have been telling me. Right after the attacks on 9/11, I jumped head-first into some serious research. I've not done that regarding the incidents in European countries over the past decade or so involving immigrants attacking people and basically being coddled and encouraged, so I can't speak with anything other than speculation about it.
But it sure seems less safe in that regard than it was 25 years ago.
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I've been to the memorial for the towers in Manhattan.
It's a good place for thinking, remembering, and meditating.
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24 years...
But the memory remains as does the will to fight radical islam terrorism.