The Community

ROCK AND ROLL! => Black Sabbath => The Ozzy Years => Topic started by: Sicko FanAtic on April 08, 2018, 09:22:24 AM

Title: Everything else fades away
Post by: Sicko FanAtic on April 08, 2018, 09:22:24 AM
Wondering about the artistic use of having the rest of the band fade out while the soloist takes over that happens in a few spots on the debut. I can't think of another album that does that, but am certain it must be out there. Anyone?

Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Everything else fades away
Post by: Axefiend on April 08, 2018, 10:54:53 AM
Off the top of my head....

Deep Purple - Hard Lovin' Man (around the 6:00 minute mark)
The Doobie Bros. - Black Water (around 3:10)

I'm sure that there are many others, just none come to mind right now.
Title: Re: Everything else fades away
Post by: Sicko FanAtic on April 08, 2018, 11:22:41 AM
Off the top of my head....

Deep Purple - Hard Lovin' Man (around the 6:00 minute mark)
The Doobie Bros. - Black Water (around 3:10)

I'm sure that there are many others, just none come to mind right now.
Cool, thanks!

Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Everything else fades away
Post by: Sicko FanAtic on April 08, 2018, 07:25:48 PM
Since Sabbath's debut was released before In Rock, I wonder if they are any earlier recordings that use this device

Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Everything else fades away
Post by: Axefiend on April 09, 2018, 08:39:02 AM
Since Sabbath's debut was released before In Rock, I wonder if they are any earlier recordings that use this device

I'm sure the advent of multi track recording made this studio "trick" possible (or at least, a lot easier to accomplish), so it might be quite a rare thing before hand.

Maybe not quite the examples you were looking for, but here's a few more:

- The Who - Tommy Can You Hear Me (fade out at the end, except the vocal)
- Faith No More - Epic (fade out at end, except the piano)
- ZO2 - Ain't It Beautiful (fade out at the end, except the guitar)



Title: Re: Everything else fades away
Post by: Zzzptm on April 09, 2018, 07:04:04 PM
In folk music, there would typically be an instrumental break where the singers did an a capella performance. In classical music, a short improvisation without other instruments playing would be a cadenza. If the composer wrote an extended solo performance, it was a full-on concerto for that instrument, and you knew it by the title.

As I typed that, I recalled Deep Purple's Concerto for Group and Orchestra, in which there are a number of passages featuring solo instruments without accompaniment, both from the band as well as from the orchestra.
Title: Re: Everything else fades away
Post by: Sicko FanAtic on April 09, 2018, 07:23:15 PM
In folk music, there would typically be an instrumental break where the singers did an a capella performance. In classical music, a short improvisation without other instruments playing would be a cadenza. If the composer wrote an extended solo performance, it was a full-on concerto for that instrument, and you knew it by the title.

As I typed that, I recalled Deep Purple's Concerto for Group and Orchestra, in which there are a number of passages featuring solo instruments without accompaniment, both from the band as well as from the orchestra.
Certainly. I'm talking about a recording technique where the rest of the music actually fades out as the soloist wails away.

Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Everything else fades away
Post by: Zzzptm on April 09, 2018, 07:27:57 PM
Hmm... in that case, I'm sure some other experimental groups did stuff like that...

Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention do not disappoint. Lots of studio fun stuff on their 1966 debut, Freak Out...
Title: Re: Everything else fades away
Post by: BOGBLAST on April 12, 2018, 08:47:29 PM
How about Heaven and Hell?
Title: Re: Everything else fades away
Post by: Zzzptm on April 13, 2018, 06:45:09 AM
How about Heaven and Hell?
Gates of Babylon, too.