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Title: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 02, 2018, 12:00:05 PM
Inspired by finding out Rudy Sarzo was in The Guess Who... this thread is for those bands that just. won't. die.  :death:

Some may still sound good, some may need to hang it up... all of them are NOT playing the arenas they once performed before...

Here's Grand Funk doing a cruise tour...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La0MOp-pep0

 :-\
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 02, 2018, 12:06:24 PM
Ahhh, you beat me to it! I was gonna call it "Bogus versions of your beloved bands" or something or other.

Most of these bogus versions are at least sanctioned by someone from the original group. What gets me about bogus Deep Purple, is that they thought they could get away with something like that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KXf9IEFuy0

...and to make it worse, the band was so shitty!!

Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 02, 2018, 12:16:22 PM
I guess when bands turn into these mega corporations, a knife in the back is just collateral damage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1qGNbuh-eA
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 02, 2018, 01:09:17 PM
Ahhh, you beat me to it! I was gonna call it "Bogus versions of your beloved bands" or something or other.

Most of these bogus versions are at least sanctioned by someone from the original group. What gets me about bogus Deep Purple, is that they thought they could get away with something like that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KXf9IEFuy0

...and to make it worse, the band was so shitty!!



That band was the same one that ripped off Steppenwolf a year before. They were planning to rip off Deep Purple in order to get enough money to pay off the Steppenwolf legal bills. Poor Rod Evans had no clue...
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 02, 2018, 01:11:20 PM
Meanwhile, back at the Savannah Flower Fest main stage... The Turtles!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Jb6fgnVVc

They still got their vocalists, that's all that really matters for their songs...
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 02, 2018, 01:42:17 PM
That band was the same one that ripped off Steppenwolf a year before. They were planning to rip off Deep Purple in order to get enough money to pay off the Steppenwolf legal bills. Poor Rod Evans had no clue...

Poor old Rod must have really been strapped for cash to take part in that clusterfuck, No one's heard from him since!

I think bogus Steppenwolf at least started out with a few of the classic members (Goldy McJohn, Nick St. Nicholas and Kent Henry), and was basically licensed out by John Kay and Jerry Edmonton until they breached the contract somehow down the line.

A version with Frankie Banali on drums:

(http://hollywoodagogo.com/Steppenwolf%201.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x05trrJBOEU/S37t72WQeiI/AAAAAAAAAas/G9buOYVrsnw/s400/wolf79+)

They actually had Steve Riley (W.A.S.P. and L.A. Guns) on drums for awhile too.
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 02, 2018, 01:50:00 PM
Here's Gary Rossington's Lynyrd Skynyrd...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Uliu7CRnI
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 02, 2018, 03:15:38 PM
^^^ If they were to carry on without Gary, how ridiculous would that be?

Here's another example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuLDoajJ6ww

Awesome band, with an awesome cast of replacements, but is it really Moxy without Buzz?
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 02, 2018, 05:27:59 PM
Rainbow's been down to one remaining member of the original lineup since 1980...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O87q6jFcmmc
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 03, 2018, 09:26:35 AM
^^^ Deep Purple too when you think about it in the original sense.

Also this band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ce2YHhN3g

Maybe an added insult when they re-record their hits with the new guys?
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 03, 2018, 09:41:08 AM
He siiiings like the first guy...

But the sound... something's missing overall, even though it's the same notes and everything. They're a cover band for their own tunes.

Kind of like Journey...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTfJI_vw4No

Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 04, 2018, 10:03:11 AM
....and Quiet Riot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3v_My_3lfg
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 04, 2018, 04:18:32 PM
^ That's right! Quiet Riot is a much, much different band than it used to be.

So is White Lion. Looks like just about any band that's running out of former members also has a part in their Wiki article about a legal dispute over who owns the rights to the band's name.
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 04, 2018, 05:05:52 PM
Looks like just about any band that's running out of former members also has a part in their Wiki article about a legal dispute over who owns the rights to the band's name.

Which brings us to Ratt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrAbG7ju41M

A band that was down to it's drummer, until the other 3 surviving members wrestled the name from him legally.
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 07, 2018, 12:01:38 PM
I looked up Dokken, figuring they'd have no legal mess since Don Dokken kinda owns his own name... and then I found out that they actually called in their lawyer to play guitar. So even Dokken had to get lawyers involved because of lineup changes.

:yeahright:
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 07, 2018, 12:19:39 PM
^^^ I can't imagine the amount of disfunction that band has been through if even half the stuff I read is true.

Another band down to one member:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxvU7o_PSWk

Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 08, 2018, 12:55:37 AM
^^^ Random song? :)
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 08, 2018, 10:58:48 AM
^^^ Random song? :)

Thought I'd kill two birds with one stone.
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 12, 2018, 06:44:25 PM
Can you spot the original band member in this video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBv0L4fh_v8

Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 12, 2018, 06:47:33 PM
Bonus... Go to 2:35 for when the original member has a turn on vocals...

https://youtu.be/ujHImvt6qo4


:zomgwtfbbq:

That was really hard to watch... the old guy sounded like he was about to drown and the lead singer looks like The Joker in different makeup...

:ivan:
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 13, 2018, 09:56:20 AM
^^^ Oh my god! Not so sweet anymore, poor bugger!

That reminded me of this video (Vocals start at 1:25):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEJp2BsaeiE

Well, at least they gave her a good ol' go before going back to work on Monday (If they're not retired!).




Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 13, 2018, 05:26:55 PM
Wow... I've heard Dad Bands doing better than that... Of course, these guys are in the Grandad Band category... but my grandad sounded way better in his band, I've also heard grandads sounding better...

Who else can we dig up at the Savannah Flower Fest...?

Sounds like Wang Chung is holding up pretty well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQIjk57tiTM

Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 15, 2018, 02:12:43 PM
Dokken, not only disfunctional but confusing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp6-iq_7dhI

Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 15, 2018, 02:13:28 PM
Ditto with Ratt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvstYal_AcM
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 15, 2018, 02:44:02 PM
Hey, what about (not bogus) Deep Purple? They haven't had any original members since '93... :P  :rofl:
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 15, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
Hey, what about (not bogus) Deep Purple? They haven't had any original members since '93... :P  :rofl:

Sorry, brainfart... It's 2002, ofcourse...  :rolleyes: :whistling:
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 16, 2018, 08:44:12 AM
Hey, what about (not bogus) Deep Purple? They haven't had any original members since '93... :P  :rofl:

Sorry, brainfart... It's 2002, ofcourse...  :rolleyes: :whistling:
But, yeah, Paice is still there. :smug:[/quote]

Yes, he is, after stealing the gig while Carlo Little went out to buy cigarettes :)

The brainfart was ofcourse about Jon Lord...
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 16, 2018, 10:03:29 AM
Hey, what about (not bogus) Deep Purple? They haven't had any original members since '93... :P  :rofl:

Sorry, brainfart... It's 2002, ofcourse...  :rolleyes: :whistling:

Paice is still there. :smug:

Yes, he is, after stealing the gig while Carlo Little went out to buy cigarettes ;)

The brainfart was ofcourse about Jon Lord...
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 16, 2018, 10:09:40 AM
Fuck, sorry Z, i hit modify instead of quote. Didn't mean to fuck up you post... Remodify it if you bother, so i don't seem like a total asshat...  :-[

:ashamed:
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 16, 2018, 10:53:39 AM
Fuck, sorry Z, i hit modify instead of quote. Didn't mean to fuck up you post... Remodify it if you bother, so i don't seem like a total asshat...  :-[

:ashamed:

I've done that as well, no worries, Billy. We're the same person some times, you and I.

OH NO TYPHON WILL USE THAT AS EVIDENCE QUICK I NEED TO MODIFY THIS POST
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 16, 2018, 10:54:08 AM
Fuck, sorry Z, i hit modify instead of quote. Didn't mean to fuck up you post... Remodify it if you bother, so i don't seem like a total asshat...  :-[

:ashamed:

I've done that as well, no worries, Billy. We're the same person some times, you and I.

OH NO TYPHON WILL USE THAT AS EVIDENCE QUICK I NEED TO MODIFY THIS POST

Damn, I quoted it instead by mistake. I wish those options weren't right next to each other! :)
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 16, 2018, 11:21:22 AM
I wish those options weren't right next to each other! :)

Hear hear!!! :D
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 16, 2018, 05:26:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7j77YhzAng

 :zomgwtfbbq: :nono: :shock: :fail1: :facepalm1:

I think one of the comments summed it up the best... "Not one original member in this band. They ought to be ashamed of themselves. One last thing...... I don't know how much this singer is paid, but if it's a buck it's to much. Absolutely terrible."

I agree, absolutely terrible...
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 17, 2018, 04:37:28 AM
Hey, what about (not bogus) Deep Purple? They haven't had any original members since '93... :P  :rofl:

Sorry, brainfart... It's 2002, ofcourse...  :rolleyes: :whistling:

Paice is still there. :smug:

Yes, he is, after stealing the gig while Carlo Little went out to buy cigarettes ;)

But... No defence against my point of view there? Was kinda expecting that...
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 17, 2018, 08:29:52 AM
Hey, what about (not bogus) Deep Purple? They haven't had any original members since '93... :P  :rofl:

Sorry, brainfart... It's 2002, ofcourse...  :rolleyes: :whistling:

Paice is still there. :smug:

Yes, he is, after stealing the gig while Carlo Little went out to buy cigarettes ;)

But... No defence against my point of view there? Was kinda expecting that...

I *had* a response, but the moment has passed. And if you look at the lineup on the first Mk1 album, I believe you see Mr. Paice in the credits. Sort of the same way that Ringo Starr is an "original" member of The Beatles. Lineups before that first recording don't really count.
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 17, 2018, 09:12:02 AM
I *had* a response, but the moment has passed. And if you look at the lineup on the first Mk1 album, I believe you see Mr. Paice in the credits. Sort of the same way that Ringo Starr is an "original" member of The Beatles. Lineups before that first recording don't really count.

Hmmmm, Do demos count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3If5AWP5eL4

Then you got Judas Priest, Who's "original" singer, Al Akins, not only did demos, but his material made it to the first and second albums (Dave Mustaine and Metallica comes to mind as well), thus getting "credit"?
Even the credit thing is a little sticky, because drummers and bass players, unless they wrote the lyrics or melody (riffs), aren't usually credited anyway, unless you do a split like Sabbath.

I know that it's probably just me being nittpicky, but it is kind of an interesting grey area.

It's funny to think of AC/DC, as they didn't have a stable line-up until the second album, so they haven't been the original band since 1975 or so. But I guess in the end, we all know AC/DC was the brain-child of Angus and Malcolm, and the rest for all intents and purposes, were really sidemen.

I never even heard of Carlo Little until I read Billy's post.
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 17, 2018, 10:24:31 AM
Well, i do consider Pete Best Beatles' original drummer as well as Stu Sutcliffe being their original bassist, they're both on the My Bonnie-album with Tony Sheridan, and it wasn't the bands fault Polydor decided to call them "The Beat Brothers".
And Dave Evans was the original AC/DC vocalist, he did their first single Can I Sit Next to You, Girl.

And there wouldn't be any Metallica without Mustaine, not only due to his song writing on Kill 'Em All, but it's also bleeding over to Ride The Lightning. You can't always just count band members by having played on albums or not.

AC/DC really belong in this thread too considering the state of the band at the moment. Stevie Youngs connection nonetheless, Angus is the only original or classic member left. The only way to get a "true" AC/DC again is to bring back Brian Johnson, and i actually think Axl've been doing a decent job for them. It's still Angus' solo project, though, just like Chinese Democracy-era G 'n' R was Axl's solo band.


That being said; i only brought DP up just to mess with you, Dozy  :banana:
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 17, 2018, 12:48:02 PM
That being said; i only brought DP up just to mess with you, Dozy  :banana:

You Danes are all crazy... :wall:
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 17, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
You Danes are all crazy... :wall:

Oooohhhh, now you're playing with fire...  :squint:

:frustration:

Well, guess i've brought it on myself... :)
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 17, 2018, 01:53:07 PM
^^^ Atleast you didn't call me a Swede. That would've earned a ban... :)
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 18, 2018, 09:49:23 AM
Another band down to 2 members, hoping to open up for "Puppet Show":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDhnmL2Ppjw
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 18, 2018, 11:55:15 AM
^^^ Atleast you didn't call me a Swede. That would've earned a ban... :)

I know my limits. :smug:
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 18, 2018, 12:07:44 PM
Another band down to 2 members, hoping to open up for "Puppet Show":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDhnmL2Ppjw

Not horrible, but the lyrics guaranteed to drive you up the wall... and the playing isn't amazing... I made it to a minute-and-a-half before I was done with it.

Bachman and Turner sound about the same as they did back in the day... but the other half of BTO has sued them about their ability to use "Bachman" or "Turner" in their band name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3VNWRdh7ME

Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on April 18, 2018, 12:34:10 PM
Bachman and Turner sound about the same as they did back in the day... but the other half of BTO has sued them about their ability to use "Bachman" or "Turner" in their band name.

That's absolutely asinine! Fred Turner and Randy Bachman were/are BTO and the only good thing about the band! That's be like Stevie Young suing Angus and Malcolm over AC/DC or something. Wow, this is definitely Topsy Turvy land!
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on April 18, 2018, 12:42:51 PM
Herman's Hermits Featuring Peter Noone... Noone left in 1971 and 1973 and yet tours under that band name. The drummer was the only band member to stay in the band all the way through their different versions, but he now has to tour as "Herman's Hermits starring Barry Whitwam" because of legal disputes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QzvKdIDQ0g

Peter doesn't sound half bad, though.
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on May 05, 2018, 02:15:48 PM
Here's a band, that was never really a band in the first place:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgN4fZ5PMAc

Still, It'd be nice to see Barry Goudreau back up there shredding away.

Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on May 09, 2018, 07:29:26 AM
They do look better without all the makeup they had on in the 70s...

Hey, April Wine is still out there! Who knew, huh?

She's a rooooollerrr...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0LehsHsFuc
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on May 09, 2018, 09:11:54 AM
^^^ As long as there's a Myles Goodwyn, There'll be an April Wine.

Chilliwack's still out there on the road too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_BOZ5GyvkU
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on May 09, 2018, 10:02:23 AM
Here's Night Ranger! Surprisingly with 3 of the 5 original members!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEBBAz6MGyw
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on June 25, 2018, 09:06:07 AM
A recent one of W.A.S.P., with Blackie vocalizing quite good for his age (61?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwIjFOtAyBc
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Axefiend on July 05, 2018, 10:30:47 AM
RATT now down to 2 members, after Jimmy DeGrasso says "Adios!".

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ratt-jimmy-degrasso/ (http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ratt-jimmy-degrasso/)

https://youtu.be/k4rjLGp48kQ
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on July 25, 2018, 06:49:43 PM
Meanwhile, Mike Muir still has that Suicidal Tendencies thing going on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd0dvko3NOM
Title: Re: Bands running out of original members playing LIVE at the Savannah Flower Fest
Post by: Zzzptm on July 30, 2018, 11:22:35 AM
Typhon spotted Queensryche is at his local festival... and they're at 3 of 5 original members...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z0zCGnZ_Ck