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Title: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Thelemech on March 26, 2018, 11:54:19 PM
To me these are the two weakest albums by Sabbath, although I can listen to Seventh Star the whole way through but Forbidden is just unlistenable in some places.
 Are these the two worst albums by our favorite band?? Or are there other worthy contenders for the worst album(s).
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Charger on March 27, 2018, 02:45:39 AM
I quite like Forbidden. The production isn't all that great but the songs are.

Worst Sabbath album by far is Never Say Die, that second half of it falls to the category of unlistenable.

Seventh Star I can agree with. Even if it is more of a solo album from Tony...Glenn's vocals are...well...Glenn's vocals. :D
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: KiloDeltaCharlie on March 27, 2018, 03:42:16 AM
Forbidden and Seventh Star are weaker efforts but I would add Headless Cross, Born Again and Master of Reality to the list of their weakest albums. All of them have highlights but overall lag behind the others by some distance.
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Axefiend on March 27, 2018, 07:54:54 AM
Gotta go with Headless Cross. The production is very much of it's time and IMO, too much so for a Black Sabbath record, and the lyrics are absolutely abysmal! When Death Calls is probably the only song on it that I can listen to anymore.

Forbidden? I think a remix would do that album wonders!

Seventh Star? probably because of when I heard it in my life and the memories it conjures up, there's no way I could judge that album objectively.
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Ted Sallis on March 27, 2018, 09:20:56 AM
Forbidden? I think a remix would do that album wonders!

I've never owned Forbidden so can't really comment on it but I bought Seventh Star (LP) when it was first released in the 80's and I consider it probably my least-favourite Sabbath album out of all the ones I own.  My runners-up to it would be Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die, although from what I've heard from the other Tony Martin albums they could be contenders as well.

Re. a Forbidden remix, I read in the Black-Sabbath.com website that work was started on a remix of the album, then postponed due to the the 13 album and tour.  I'm not sure if work has resumed on it yet.

Ted
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Zzzptm on April 02, 2018, 09:33:15 AM
Headless Cross was such a huge disappointment after Eternal Idol.
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Charger on April 02, 2018, 09:40:42 AM
Headless Cross was such a huge disappointment after Eternal Idol.

Really? I've always enjoyed Headless Cross much more than Eternal Idol.
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Zzzptm on April 02, 2018, 10:30:42 AM
Headless Cross was such a huge disappointment after Eternal Idol.

Really? I've always enjoyed Headless Cross much more than Eternal Idol.

Fascinating... tell you what, why don't you go sit with Billy and I'll get with you as soon as this meeting wraps up.

:buhbye:
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Charger on April 02, 2018, 11:09:07 AM
HEY! Don't you dare shut that door in my face mumble mumble...bugger.
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Jack the Stripper on April 02, 2018, 09:09:27 PM
Headless Cross was such a huge disappointment after Eternal Idol.
Totally agree. Headless Cross was when things got really cheesey. 
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: JSTHECONQUEROR on April 02, 2018, 11:32:42 PM
Forbidden is an awesome album. Seventh Star is so boring I can barely get through to the end. Its hands down the worst Sabbath album for me.
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: BOGBLAST on April 02, 2018, 11:54:30 PM
I'm gonna knock all your asses for a loop and say TYR. I love Anno Mundi and Jerusalem but the rest of the album just doesn't do it for me. Nothing really sticks out after those two songs. Feel free to disagree and why.
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Billy Underdog on April 03, 2018, 12:51:58 AM
Headless Cross was such a huge disappointment after Eternal Idol.
Totally agree. Headless Cross was when things got really cheesey. 

That's why Charg thinks it's better...  :lol: :banana: :lol: :banana:
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Charger on April 03, 2018, 02:50:16 AM
Headless Cross was such a huge disappointment after Eternal Idol.
Totally agree. Headless Cross was when things got really cheesey. 

That's why Charg thinks it's better...  :lol: :banana: :lol: :banana:

You are saying that I like cheese? Well I do actually...on my bread!
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Zzzptm on April 03, 2018, 08:12:19 AM
I'm gonna knock all your asses for a loop and say TYR. I love Anno Mundi and Jerusalem but the rest of the album just doesn't do it for me. Nothing really sticks out after those two songs. Feel free to disagree and why.

If I was faced with losing a friendship or insisting that TYR was better than Headless Cross, I'd say, "Fine, TYR is worse..."

Not that the friendship is that important, it's just that TYR isn't really that much better of an album. I prefer Cross Purposes and Forbidden to both of those Martin-era efforts.
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Charger on April 03, 2018, 08:39:43 AM
I'm gonna knock all your asses for a loop and say TYR. I love Anno Mundi and Jerusalem but the rest of the album just doesn't do it for me. Nothing really sticks out after those two songs. Feel free to disagree and why.

Anno Mundi is probably THE best Martin-era track and better than some Dio-era and lots of Ozzy era too...The Sabbath Stones is another cool one and Valhalla's riff is aweseome...but Feels Good To Me is so horrible that it alone brings this album down...and Heaven In Black is pretty stale and a bad closer for sure.

Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: BOGBLAST on April 04, 2018, 12:05:11 AM
I'm gonna knock all your asses for a loop and say TYR. I love Anno Mundi and Jerusalem but the rest of the album just doesn't do it for me. Nothing really sticks out after those two songs. Feel free to disagree and why.

If I was faced with losing a friendship or insisting that TYR was better than Headless Cross, I'd say, "Fine, TYR is worse..."

Not that the friendship is that important, it's just that TYR isn't really that much better of an album. I prefer Cross Purposes and Forbidden to both of those Martin-era efforts.

As do I ZZZ
Title: Re: Seventh Star or Forbidden - The Worst Black Sabbath Album
Post by: Zzzptm on April 05, 2018, 09:52:00 AM
Wonder what the big difference between Tyr/Headless Cross and EI/CP/Forbidden is that kind of splits opinions about the albums?