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ROCK AND ROLL! => All Them Other Guys => Topic started by: Thelemech on February 16, 2018, 05:11:22 PM
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A general thread for that which is the awesomeness known as Thrash Metal.
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:guitar: :drummer: :jimi: :metal1:
A general thread for that which is the awesomeness known as Thrash Metal.
Does Dick Dale doing "Miserlou" count as proto-Thrash? Think about it...
As for regular thrash, I'll open with this classic of the genre:
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Does Dick Dale doing "Miserlou" count as proto-Thrash? Think about it...
More proto Speed Death Metal, really...
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Back on topic... Russian band Master is some great thrashin' fun. They emerged from Aria and chose a different musical direction. Aria is NWOBHM in sound, Master is more in line with Megadeth, Nuclear Assault, and Overkill.
Мастер — «Бульдозер» Master - "Bulldozer"
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This is a underrated classic, and some wicked Speed/Thrash Metal. I recommend it highly - as many do.
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In the late 80s, I got into a lot of Thrash, and I always liked checking out one of Metal Blade's Metal Massacre sampler albums.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMO26g9jCpE
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How about some Exodus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3MC9WWSP08
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:yes: This should be so much awesomeness - cannot wait for it to come out.
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(http://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2018/overkilllivecdmarch.jpg)
:yes: This should be so much awesomeness - cannot wait for it to come out.
Yeah looks good. Celebrating the 30th and 25th anniversaries of Feel the Fire & Horrorscope respectively. Will probably pick it up on vinyl.
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I really think I should check Overkill out...heard a lot of good things about them...
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I really think I should check Overkill out...heard a lot of good things about them...
Sooo... Not Overkill, not the New York Dolls. :twitch: Any other essential Rock/Metal bands that've passed you by? Hanoi Rocks? :P Or is it just New York based bands? Ever heard The Ramones?
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I really think I should check Overkill out...heard a lot of good things about them...
Sooo... Not Overkill, not the New York Dolls. :twitch: Any other essential Rock/Metal bands that've passed you by? Hanoi Rocks? :P Or is it just New York based bands? Ever heard The Ramones?
There's also Blue Oyster Cult and The Dictators, both worth checking out.
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Sooo... Not Overkill, not the New York Dolls. :twitch: Any other essential Rock/Metal bands that've passed you by? Hanoi Rocks? :P Or is it just New York based bands? Ever heard The Ramones?
Hate Hanoi Rocks...truly. Is there someone on this planet that hasn't heard of The Ramones...? :D
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Is there someone on this planet that hasn't heard of The Ramones...? :D
Well, as there's someone on this planet who haven't heard of New York Dolls (a big influence on The Ramones, btw), anything is possible... ;)
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I really think I should check Overkill out...heard a lot of good things about them...
Sooo... Not Overkill, not the New York Dolls. :twitch: Any other essential Rock/Metal bands that've passed you by? Hanoi Rocks? :P Or is it just New York based bands? Ever heard The Ramones?
Well he's a big Anthrax fan and also a fan of White Zombie so not all the essential New York bands have passed him by.
Charger I totally recommend you picking up The Years of Decay, it's the best of the 80's Overkill albums. Also Horrorscope(91) and imo the best thrash album of the last 20 years Ironbound.
Plenty of other great albums in the Overkill discography but if those three albums I mentioned don't get you hooked, nothing will.
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I really think I should check Overkill out...heard a lot of good things about them...
Sooo... Not Overkill, not the New York Dolls. :twitch: Any other essential Rock/Metal bands that've passed you by? Hanoi Rocks? :P Or is it just New York based bands? Ever heard The Ramones?
Well he's a big Anthrax fan and also a fan of White Zombie so not all the essential New York bands have passed him by.
Charger I totally recommend you picking up The Years of Decay, it's the best of the 80's Overkill albums. Also Horrorscope(91) and imo the best thrash album of the last 20 years Ironbound.
Plenty of other great albums in the Overkill discography but if those three albums I mentioned don't get you hooked, nothing will.
Oh yes...I do know something about the New York metal scene! :D I just don't care much about punk...
Thanks...I will check that one out at some point. I remember few years ago at a HAIL! show meeting the Overkill guitarist Dave Linsk (Tim Ripper Owens introduced us there) and he was a great player and a super cool guy...we talked a lot about Ronnie and our favourite albums.
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I bought this recently and though they do slow it down a bit and add some touches of Groove Metal it still is a enjoyable "Thrashy" album IMHO. I would say to at least give it a chance if you have not already, you may find yourself pleasantly surprised like I was.
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^^ I have the Japanese issue of Force of Habit which has 2 bonus tracks, a slipcase for the jewel box, a sticker and a booklet with extra photos, bios on each band Member, etc.
There are some good songs on FOH but also too much filler including 2 cover songs which don't belong at all IMO. They needed to save those covers for b-sides and some of the originals for reworking/improving for possible inclusion on later albums (though to be fair this album was their last brand new studio one until 2004).
Ted
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I have been listening to this album a lot lately, loving the drum work - I am not a drummer but as usual Lars makes some interesting choices on the record.
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This sounds great - really looking forward to this release.
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This sounds great and Joey is killing it. My next purchase if I can find a copy.
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This sounds great and Joey is killing it. My next purchase if I can find a copy.
Same here! I was gonna get the DVD/CD double pack but it's not available here...I could order it from Nuclearblast 's own webstore but the postage is so insane that it makes no sense.
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^^^ Yeah my local record store does not even have a copy and they have everything for fucks sakes :doh:
I cannot believe how good Joey sounds
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I cannot believe how good Joey sounds
Agreed! But that's why he is the best singer in thrash! :)
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Brutal !!
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This sounds great and Joey is killing it. My next purchase if I can find a copy.
Same here! I was gonna get the DVD/CD double pack but it's not available here...I could order it from Nuclearblast 's own webstore but the postage is so insane that it makes no sense.
Just as Chile On Hell is the horrible editing make it near unwatchable. It's a huge bugbear of mine the way bands have their live concert videos edited these days.
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This is fn awesome - when Metallica ruled the Metal World!!
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Just as Chile On Hell is the horrible editing make it near unwatchable. It's a huge bugbear of mine the way bands have their live concert videos edited these days.
Yeah...that's true...but neither this or Chile is even close to being the worst I've seen...But indeed...I do miss the good old days when there was actually more than seconds between edits.
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Blackfire is back !! :headbanger:
raw sound, a lot of mistakes but nevermind . A great back to roots with a tracklist essentially from the first EP and 3 first LPs.
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^^^^ great choice, my friend ! the whole album is pure gold :guitar: :drummer: :headbanger:
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^^^ sorry it took me so long to respond TYR66!! Definitely one of the best of the new breed of Thrash Metal bands.
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This album is excellent - the whole way through and is well produced at least to these ears. If you have not heard it give it a chance.
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Hard to argue with this list. Maybe one could argue the order but a very definitive top five for mine.
https://www.revolvermag.com/music/fan-poll-5-greatest-thrash-metal-albums-all-time#5-exodus-bonded-blood
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Im sure both Charger and Thel will be picking this up but interesting thoughts from Charlie
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/anthraxs-charlie-benante-on-state-of-euphoria-album-all-of-us-in-the-band-felt-that-it-was-not-finished/
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^^^ :yes: - I will definitely be picking that up :excited:
:wootwoot: - a great album!!
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^^^ :yes: - I will definitely be picking that up :excited:
:wootwoot: - a great album!!
What he said! ;D
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Great read
https://www.loudersound.com/features/a-tribute-to-jeff-hanneman-written-by-dave-lombardo
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^^^ That was great Jack - thanks :rhythm:
Artillery have a new album coming out.
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Both of these albums are Speed Metal/Thrash Metal masterpieces that should not be ignored. Incredibly underrated and a great headbanging experience, highly recommended.
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What is the name of the band? Can't quite make out... Agent Steel?
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What is the name of the band? Can't quite make out... Agent Steel?
Yes, it is Agent Steel
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This album smokes and is rightfully regarded as a hidden gem. Includes the guitarist from Agent Steel, Juan Garcia who also plays for Bodycount now.
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Hail the master at 54 :drummer:
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So a guitarist friend of mine on facebook posted this and as you guys know I have never really gotten into Exodus nor have I ever really listened to them, but since I wasn't sleeping last night anyways I thought I'd check it out...and damn this is a great song! Musically that is...that singer though...pretty damn bad. But the guitar work especially is brilliant here. Ofcourse it has Gary Holt who I know from Slayer.
Jack and Thel you probably know more about the band any stuff I should most certainly check out? I think I've heard a song with Steve Souza and if possible his vocals are even worse...but I could remember wrong too...
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So a guitarist friend of mine on facebook posted this and as you guys know I have never really gotten into Exodus nor have I ever really listened to them, but since I wasn't sleeping last night anyways I thought I'd check it out...and damn this is a great song! Musically that is...that singer though...pretty damn bad. But the guitar work especially is brilliant here. Ofcourse it has Gary Holt who I know from Slayer.
Jack and Thel you probably know more about the band any stuff I should most certainly check out? I think I've heard a song with Steve Souza and if possible his vocals are even worse...but I could remember wrong too...
Love me some Exodus but not with Rob Dukes on vocals, that song is from The Atrocity Exhibition: Exhibit A. Monster album spoiled by the vocals of Dukes as are the other two he screams on(Three if you count the blasphemous rerecording of their debut).
Souza is much better and more tolerable but is an aquired taste and can grate after awhile, he has a touch of the Bon Scott's about him without the character of coarse.
Paul Baloff was the original and the best though. I've always thought of him as the quintessential thrash vocalist. He didn't sing or growl but yelled and snarled in a way that was totally unique and couldn't be replicated by anyone. His attitude and character on and off stage is the stuff of legend.
The debut album and unfortunately the only studio album he was on "Bonded By Blood" is a straight up classic and generally considered the greatest thrash debut along with Kill 'Em All.
I suggest you start with that legendary release and if that ain't to your liking then maybe jump to their 3rd album(2nd with Souza) "Fabulous Disaster"
From there, I suggest you check out 2004's "Tempo of the Damned". Great modern thrash album packed with brutal memorable riffs. Personally I think it's their 2nd best album behind Bonded and one of the best thrash albums of the last 25 years. If you don't like that album or the debut then Exodus probably ain't for you.
Gary Holt is an absolute beast! :guitar:
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Listening to Bonded By Blood (The title track) right now!
Baloff sounds a bit like a mixture of Neil Turbin and Paul DiAnno with some Araya thrown in...would never have thought a mix like that would work but it actually kind of does! Surely he sounds better than that guy Dukes.
I need to check Souza's stuff soon too.
Oh Metal Command just came on and damn...this song is great!
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Okay...And Then There Were None...that riff! Wow.
I think I need to buy this album....
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Okay went through Bonded By Blood and liked it!
Now I'm listening to this:
I'm liking Souza now...he sounds a lot like Udo...
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And moving on as Jack suggested and still liking what I'm hearing:
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New Kreator song :headbanger:
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Ok just a quickie. I want your top 3 thrash albums from the 80’s outside of the BIG 4
Here’s mine
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Honestly I know very little to nothing about thrash bands outside of the big 4 plus Exodus so I can't take part in this one.
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Dangit! Most of my thrash is Megadeth and Anthrax!
But how about Motorhead's Overkill?
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I only know Metallica and Megadeth so I can't join in here!
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Never mind. I thought that might’ve been the case but knew Thel would have 3 which I’m quite surprised by his picks actually. Definitely knew an Overkill album would get in there but not the other 2...Interesting Thel.
Id probably recommend Overkill’s “The Years of Decay” for of all of you. Has a good amount of variety and well written songs. Even has a doomy Sabbathesque track on it.
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Never mind. I thought that might’ve been the case but knew Thel would have 3 which I’m quite surprised by his picks actually. Definitely knew an Overkill album would get in there but not the other 2...Interesting Thel.
Id probably recommend Overkill’s “The Years of Decay” for of all of you. Has a good amount of variety and well written songs. Even has a doomy Sabbathesque track on it.
Well the Nuclear Assault was along with Slayer's Reign in Blood my first introduction to what I personally classify as Extreme Metal. I can remeber hearing Handle With Care for the first time and how incredible it sounded to me. To this day it remains one of my favorite albums of all time.
The Evil Dead album is in my opinion one of the best of the underground Metal scene. Every time I hear it it moves me to Thrash!!! :wootwoot: Such an overlooked album, I first heard this one in Hawaii, and for some reason it really resonated with me.
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Handle With Care is a great choice Thel. Very consistent all the way through. They had a peak period in the 80’s where they a had solid following but they are seemingly underrated these day’s for their 80’s output. Being considered a crossover thrash band probably hurt them. They were always much more thrash than hardcore to me.
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I don’t believe there’s a Metallica thread on here so I’ll leave this here.
34 years ago today a uniquely talented bass player and musicians life was tragically cut short at just 24 years of age.
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The greatest Thrash Metal bassist??!! Yes most definitely :yes: R.I.P.
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Cliff was brilliant. What a tragic loss to the music world his passing was...indeed.
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Both his writing and his playing are sorely missed.
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Sad to read of the passing of Marsha Zazula at just 68. The importance of what her and husband Jonny did for metal in establishing their own record label Megaforce Records and signing bands other labels wouldn’t touch can’t be overstated enough. Particularly in launching the career of Metallica and other important thrash bands Anthrax, Overkill and Testament.
https://blabbermouth.net/news/megaforce-records-co-founder-marsha-zazula-dies-at-68/
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That is sad indeed....Megaforce was instrumental in launching the whole thrash metal scene.
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Who said Metallica's never had a good drummer?
Cause they did! Well for one show anyways:
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dave-lombardo-looks-back-on-filling-in-for-metallicas-lars-ulrich-at-2004-download-festival-it-was-a-moment-in-history/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dave-lombardo-looks-back-on-filling-in-for-metallicas-lars-ulrich-at-2004-download-festival-it-was-a-moment-in-history/)
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This aired a couple of nights ago on the Stephen Colbert late show celebrating Master of Puppets 35th Anniversary.
Considering these guys are approaching their 60’s this is a pretty dam killer performance.
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Very good performance.
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:rockon: That was great - thanks for sharing Jack!!
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Pretty good...bit sterile but that's to be expected for studio live.
Those 80s pornstar 'stache of Rob's though! :D
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Pretty good...bit sterile but that's to be expected for studio live.
Those 80s pornstar 'stache of Rob's though! :D
This is why I keep a goatee. :smug:
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I have been listening to a lot of Tankard and Destruction. I think that both bands that have made very few bad albums and still are putting out epic Thrash Metal to this day.
Anyone else who is a fan of Teutonic Thrash Metal?? Maybe other bands of the big Four, Kreator or Sodom are more your thing. Personally I love all four of them.
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Yes I’m a big fan too. Kreator always stood out to me though. Still killing it today.
Love early Sodom as well. They were game changers. Had a big influence on the extreme metal scene that followed. All of them did really. Great bands.
On another note. Interesting times ahead for Megadeth, in particular David Ellefson. His career is probably over with what’s swirling around the internet at the moment.
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Kreator is still killing it for sure, and some wicked live albums from them lately as well. For me Destruction is the ultimate of the four and I think their still delivering the goods to this day.
I was not aware that DE was in trouble - will go look around the net.
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I wonder if DE can survive this one?? I read he has been married for 27 years now, hope that is able to survive at least for his kids. Thanks for the heads up Jack.
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I can’t see him surviving this. Whether he’s broken any laws or not it’s an extremely embarrassing situation for him and his family.
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The woman has made a statement that they were all adult and consensual interactions so I am hoping that this is true.
You are probably right though - this might finish him and some might say justifiably so.
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Admittedly I do not know a lot of personal info about DE and his character. With the swiftness of cancel culture or accountability culture the mob might make a swift and damning judgement on him. If she was underage then it SHOULD finish him.
I wonder what Dave M will say about all this.
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As expected a lot of noise over nothing.
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/megadeths-david-ellefson-pushes-back-against-misinformation-over-private-adult-interactions-with-female/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/megadeths-david-ellefson-pushes-back-against-misinformation-over-private-adult-interactions-with-female/)
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I don’t know Charger, that’s a very favourable worded headline Blabbermouth has gone with. As I said, whether he’s broken any laws or not it’s still an extremely embarrassing situation he’s found himself in with apparently videos all over the internet of him jerking himself silly on FaceTime to a young girl 1/3 of his age.
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I did not know there were videos made public as well. But if they both were in it together so to speak what's wrong with that? And it is clear that the videos were published obviously without the woman in questions permission.
But honestly what you do at home is a private thing and it is rather horrible that such things are made public.
And eventhough I personally do not understand this whole masturbation thing it doesn't mean I would condemn everyone who does it to hell.
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Ouch.
It is never ever good news that the other person wasn't underage, after all. There's still the overall issue of stuff like that coming out in the first place.
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Too bad for Dave. :redcard:
a French politician saw his political career implode in the same way, trapped by a very pretty young woman but he didn'tt know that she was a close friend of Piotr Pavlenski, a Russian "artist" who had himself nailed his balls to Red Square in Moscow and remotely controlled by the current ultra-left.
She had asked him to masturbate on camera, this jerk did. It has since disappeared from media radars.
Sad time.
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Mustaine would be so pissed off that this has happened. I’ll give it a few days before Ellefson is stood down. If his lucky Mustaine might let him make his own announcement that he’s standing down but knowing Mustaine he’ll publicly fire his arse.
Apparently he’s already unfollowed him on social media. Very sad situation for all involved.
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I have always found it odd that people actually are stupid enough to take pictures of themselves in sexual way or let alone film themselves doing sexual things...It just doesn't make sense. You should know by now that once it gets out there (and most of the time one way or another it DOES) it is there for good...
It is just...well simply put...stupdity.
Same thing happened to a bunch of other celebrities a while back...and then they go blaming the internet and people who are watching those clips...but it's all down to their own stupidity for doing such videos and taking pictures to begin with.
Moral of the story is NEVER EVER NEVER take sexual pictures or make videos or do sexual things on a live setting (unless it's your job)!! Stop being idiots people! Seriously.
Eventhough techincally David did nothing wrong here it is quite possible he's career is done (atleast for a while) and it's a huuuge blow to Megadeth as well and I can imagine Dave being beyond shocked and disappointed by his friend here...
Sad thing all around I would say as well.
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Once it's on the Internet, it's on the Internet FOREVER.
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Some new EXODUS just hit the airwaves and it's pretty good.
It does have a very strong Slayer-feel to it though, which is not surprising obviously but I wasn't expecting it to be quite so clear.
Steve sounds killer again.
And the artwork looks brilliant:
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^ For some reason, the video is age-restricted...
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^ For some reason, the video is age-restricted...
Extreme scenes of fluffy bunnies and puppies
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Zetro has lost it a bit. His vocals sound somewhat grating to my ears now. The song is a by the numbers thrasher. Still looking forward to the album but this particular song isnt doing much for me.
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I've listened to the new song on YouTube a couple of times. I like the rhythm and lead guitar sounds. I agree w/Charger's comment above re. the Slayer-feel to the song. Overall, it has kind of a unique vibe to me and is pretty impressive.
Ted
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Recently rereleased with some impressive versions of this classic Heavy Metal album, I 'm looking at the awesome set that Jack The Stripper bought.
I myself was only able to track down a single disk version of arguably the greatest mainstream Metal album of all time. The remaster sounds brilliant.
Around this time I was listening to a lot of Death Metal but I always had my hear open to bands like Metallica or Megadeth. I would always get their albums on first day of release. For some this was the last great Metallica album but I would argue that Death Magnetic and Hardwire To Self Destruct are steps in the right direction. On this album though they slowed things down and in some places upped the heaviness. I can remember seeing an Ozzy interview around the time of the Black Albums release saying how much he thought it sounded like what he would have wanted a modern Black Sabbath record to sound like.
I can remember being torn between this great Metal album and the Megadeth album Countdown To Extinction. At the time I would have probably said that Countdown was superior, but with older years I have come to greatly appreciate the Black Album. It is a work of art, to put it simply. In all honesty I love both albums, but the Metallica slab is simply epic!
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Nice to see you enjoying this album again Thel. It is a monster and the remaster is amazing. There’s a little more space between the instruments and I’m hearing detail I didn’t originally hear. The clarity is incredible.
I absolutely loved this album and played the hell out of it when it came out, I just hated how popular they became. Never hardly listen to it anymore but this new boxset has me invested again. I really dig hearing the songs striped back in early progress and demo stage. Also the Moscow show is one of the best live shows I’ve ever heard. Band was firing on all cylinders at that point.
Favourite song Thel? For me it was Roam when it first came out before it was all over the radio but it soon became “Of Wolf and Man” and still is to this day. Also love Through The Never, The God That Failed, My Friend of Misery and The Struggle Within. They're all great songs but 5 of the singles became way overplayed. This boxset is selling out everywhere. There’s 50,000 made.
Sold out in less than a week on Metallica.com which the other boxsets took months to.
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As far as the S/T album goes it has some great tracks...but it also has some real commercial sounding garbage on it too...very mixed bag.
My favourite track has always been Of Wolf And Man...that is probably the most classic sounding track there. Love the power of it and the lyrics are among Hetfield's finest.
Struggle Within, Holier Than Thou and Don't Tread On Me are also among my favourites.
The real stinker section consists of the commercial radio ballads The Unforgiven and Nothing Else Matters. Sad But True falls into the stinker section too but part of it is because of it being so goddamn overplayed.
Enter Sandman is the best of the "hits" and the intro riff ofcourse is a classic and I find myself humming that one every now and then just for no reason. :D It is catchy. But it too is so damn over played that it has ruined the song a bit.
The other songs are okay....none of them really raise any real feeling one way or another. My life won't get any worse even if I never heard any of them again...nor would it improve if I did.
But one thing is clear though, this album is NOT Thrash metal.... Not sure I'd go with classic Heavy Metal either... There are clearly some pop elements in the song structures and delivery but I wouldn't call it pop metal either. Thel's term Mainstrem Metal sounds about right actually. This was very clear change in direction for the band and they clearly did it with mainstream commercialism in mind. And unlike with some bands they made it big. This is the album that made Metallica a household name. I think they lost a lof of old school fans with this album but sure as hell gained a whole lot of younger fans who at that point probably had never even heard of Metallica nor knew that they had already released a whole bunch of better albums...and to them those albums probably never came favourites either.
In fact I know some Metallica fans that absolutely hate the earlier stuff because it's so "extreme"... :D To them the band started with S/T...and I suppose ended with St. Anger...
I don't think there's another album out there that has made a band this huge this fast...
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I don’t think there’s anyone out there or has there ever been that thinks the album is thrash so that kinda sounds weird that you’re reiterating that point charger. I don’t think the band deliberately set out to be commercial and huge in the mainstream either. No one in their wildest dreams thought they would’ve gotten as huge as they did. But they did set out to to make the songs shorter, simpler in structure and slower in their heaviness as they felt they had taken their previous formula of longer more complicated songs with multi-tempo changes as far as they could without repeating themselves. Puppets was always gonna be impossible to top and there’s no question Justice while still great was a drop off from that album. They had taken that style as far as they could. They also brought in a producer to make them sound as good as they could be.
TBA album opened a lot of doors for metal bands and influenced many and brought metal to the forefront as well as turned literally millions of people onto metal, and that can only be a good thing.
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I was simply thinking out loud there trying to categorize the album genre. I don't think any one of us here thought of it as Thrash metal for sure...which is why I dismissed that quickly. :D
But why I felt the need to start with that was because Metallica was (and still is ofcourse) considered among the bands that started the whole Thrash metal genre. Although one might argue that they started to steer away from that genre already with Master Of Puppets.
I do also think that they'd been around the block often enough at that point to see what were the things that made hit songs and what style was getting the most commercial recognition...and they steered their boat towards that with the album. Doing shorter radio play length songs with a clearer verse / chorus sturctures and catchy sing along parts all make it pretty obvious that they wanted a piece of the ever growing MTV crowd.
Did they ever in their wildest dreams expect it to hit that big? I seriously doubt that too! :)
I would also say that this album started a genre called Nu-Metal....or at the very least was a huuuge influence to that whole genre.
I do think that the music scene of the 90s would be bit different if this album never happened.
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My favorite song is Sad But True. It was the fav song of a dear friend who has passed on. It of course reminds me of him but it is also a song with some great guitar work IMHO.
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Pausing the Metallica talk for this one:
Pretty crazy riffing in the intro. This is bit less Slayer-like than the first one, bit more Exodus-like...I'm getting a strong Tempo Of The Damned vibe on this one which is a good thing.
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I think because of the changes it introduced to Metallica's sound and style, it's a tipping point in their career. There really are a lot of fans of this album and later work that can't get into the earlier releases just as there are crusty oldsters who just can't get into what came after this album.
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Anthrax’s 40th Anniversary live show/prerecorded live stream from earlier in the year has been put up on YouTube, I’d say without the bands permission, so if you wanna watch it I’d suggest you do ASAP before it gets taken down. It’s pretty good for the most part besides the poor overdubbing job on Joey’s vocals, glaringly obvious on Lone Justice & Indians. The newer songs sound great. Jay Ruston did a great job with the sound & mix.
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Video's not working. Not surprising though. I'm assuming the band wants to release that as a dvd at some point...I hope.
These are some bold words from Steve here:
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/steve-zetro-souza-persona-non-grata-is-exoduss-best-album-so-far/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/steve-zetro-souza-persona-non-grata-is-exoduss-best-album-so-far/)
I honestly hate it when bands say this kind of stuff...It usually never ever is the case and they're just building the hype up and it leads to disappointments.
Sure you can be proud of the album and say that it's great and what not, but call it the best ever is always bit steep.
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The video works for me, strange it works in Aus and UK but not Finland?!
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That is...but it does seem to be region blocked indeed....SME has blocked what ever SME is....
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It is blocked here in Canada as well.
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Video's not working. Not surprising though. I'm assuming the band wants to release that as a dvd at some point...I hope.
These are some bold words from Steve here:
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/steve-zetro-souza-persona-non-grata-is-exoduss-best-album-so-far/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/steve-zetro-souza-persona-non-grata-is-exoduss-best-album-so-far/)
I honestly hate it when bands say this kind of stuff...It usually never ever is the case and they're just building the hype up and it leads to disappointments.
Sure you can be proud of the album and say that it's great and what not, but call it the best ever is always bit steep.
Long time guitarist and main Exodus songwriter Gary Holt has always considered Bonded By Blood to be their best album; in the article, Steve states that everyone in the Group considers PNG to be by far their best album yet. I've always agreed with Gary's ranking of BBB so I can't help but wonder if Sousa is largely getting carried away with the hype.
Ted
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This band and this album in particular are classics of second tier Thrash Metal. If you are looking for something new to explore this member of the Teutonic Big Four will deliver.
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Hard to read the band name - is it "Tankard"?
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Yes, it is Tankard. Some great Thrash with a bit of comedy on most songs.
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Yes, it is Tankard. Some great Thrash with a bit of comedy on most songs.
Giving it a go right now and you got a +1 from me for putting me on to it, Thel!
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^ nice :rockon: enjoy!!
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And YES the Anthrax 40th Anniversary live stream IS indeed coming out on Bluray/DVD!!
Can't bloody wait to finally see it in full!
https://blabbermouth.net/news/anthraxs-40th-anniversary-livestream-to-be-released-on-blu-ray-cd-and-digital
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Hopefully they’ve fixed the poor overdubbing job they did on Joey’s vocals first time around.
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What song was overdubbed? I assume they had some sound problems on the stream...? It happens unfortunately...
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The stream wasn’t live, it was prerecorded and they went back and overdubbed some of Joeys vocals where he wasn’t cutting it and they did a poor job of doing it. Probably due to time constraints and rushing it.
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Listening to this a lot lately. I know the band hates it and they feel like this was their Black Album attempt. I still love the massive riffs that are strewn throughout the record. I remember getting it when it was released but instantly sold it after one listen. I really did not give it much of a chance and am glad I was able to appreciate it later in life. Obviously not among their best but I like it anyway :partay:
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Metallica payed tribute to Jonny and Marsha Zazula this past week by playing a somewhat intimate gig at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Florida only honouring songs from their Megaforce years 83/84.
Also played this rarity
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Wow, almost a 40-year anniversary of that material!
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The Call Of Ktulu Nov 6
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I have to take a moment to talk about DEATH ANGEL here...
I've been listening to their stuff a lot lately and I'm just loving it!
Mark's vocals are great! He is a really good singer...one of the best in thrash I'd say...not quite up there with Joey Belladonna who obviously is THE best singer in Thrash there's no contest as he is a PROPER singer but Mark is actually pretty close. He's got a great range and lots of depth to his voice.
I don't have all of their stuff yet as some is bit hard to find...but out of what I got I'd say THE EVIL DIVIDE is the cream of the crop...that album is just pure brilliance. There aren't many thrash albums from the past decade that can match that I think...Megadeth's Thirteen and Dystopia are great and Anthrax's Worship Music is great and I think The Evil Divide is right up there with them for sure...
Then I'd say
Relentless Revolution
The Dream Calls For Blood
Humanicide
Act III
Killing Season
Although I've only listened the final two just few times so those need more time to sink in....but with Evil Divide it was instant! BOOM this album kicks ass. I love when that happens. For me it's getting more and more rare nowadays so that makes it that much more special.
I gotta give a shout out to Thel for recommending this band!
I owe you one brother!
This song right here is my absolute favourite! Everything here is damn near pure perfection!
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Metallica’s new stadium in the round stage set up is friggin huge
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WTF?????
https://blabbermouth.net/news/its-official-slayer-reunites-announces-first-shows-in-five-years (https://blabbermouth.net/news/its-official-slayer-reunites-announces-first-shows-in-five-years)
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Maybe they just needed time apart. That happens.
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Well Tom was 100% done with it...or so he said. He had his health issues with his back and neck and wanting to be with his family and what not...
Well I guess 5 years was enough and he got bored! :D
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Cash money is hard to pass up; those guys are an instant draw wherever they decide to play a gig, so I imagine certain people started pasing around numbers and Tom was like, "no,". And then some bigger numbers were passed around, and Tom talked to his wife and she smacked him in the head and was all like, "wtf, go grab that money, you're not getting any younger."
Combined with what is no doubt the lure of the stage - even for someone in Tom's position, it's got to play a role there. King mentioned Tom's aversion to fame, and I get that, but this wouldn't be about fame, per se. Just the feeling of walking onto a stage and having the energy of tens of thousands of people directed at you.
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^^ I agree, I believe that they were offered enough $$ to convince them to take part in those Fests. It was still a quite surprising and sudden announcement.
Ted
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Quite right I suppose.
Money's there and so is the demand... But honestly I think they could have waited bit longer to make a comeback, especially after all the hype that went into that retirement! :D
But hey I don't mind! World with Slayer in it is better than world without!
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Anyone here know a band called FORBIDDEN?
I just heard Tim mention the band on the KK's Priest show broadcast and checked them out and thought they were pretty good!
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I have some Forbidden albums
Their Twisted Into Form is a classic
They have been around for years and they never got the respect they deserve
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Well I thought our resident musical encyclopedia Thel would know them!
Yeah...looks like they've been unactive more than active over the years. Pretty good stuff though.
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That's the first I've heard of them, pretty solid material.
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Quite the shocking announcement coming from EXODUS
Announcement!
EXODUS have parted ways with Steve "Zetro" Souza. We thank Steve for his years fronting the band and all the killer music we made during that time. We wish him only the best in the future and much success with anything he does.
And please help us welcome Rob Dukes back to EXODUS! We are beyond stoked to have Rob back ripping up the stage with us and he's looking forward to crushing everything like only he can.
Next chapter begins, new record rolls along as planned and the beatings will continue.
See you soon,
EXODUS
I never liked Dukes...his stage persona was abnoxious and his vocals were...well...not very good...so I won't be buying the next Exodus album anymore...this is kind of sad though as I would have liked to see them live at some point...but not anymore.
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^^ Yes, again from out of the blue they have once again changed vocalists, with Rob taking the place of the man who replaced him. Quite surprising/unexpected indeed.
Ted
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I like Dukes and truly enjoy his albums with Exodus but the band was iconic with Souza